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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 January 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Murdo Fraser

So the closure of the refinery will have no impact on the gas pipeline.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Murdo Fraser

If you were speaking today to one of the 400 workers at Grangemouth who might lose their jobs over the next 18 months—it might be longer than that, but it might be 18 months—what assurances could you give them that they will be likely to find a job in the green economy in which they will be able to utilise their skill set?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Murdo Fraser

Thank you, cabinet secretary.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Murdo Fraser

Beyond the transition, where will they purchase their refined product from?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Murdo Fraser

Thank you for that clarification. However, do you accept that, even though the Grangemouth refinery is closing, there will still be demand for oil and gas in Scotland? Even with a just transition, that demand will probably exist for decades to come. In effect, we are exporting those jobs. There will still be demand, but the jobs will not be here any more.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Murdo Fraser

Will those new jobs come online quickly enough so that those who might lose their jobs at Grangemouth can benefit from them?

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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Murdo Fraser

Good morning, gentlemen. I want to ask a couple of questions just to follow up Mr Beattie’s line of questioning and to ensure that I properly understand the situation.

At present, Grangemouth takes crude oil from the North Sea or elsewhere, refines it and then sells the product to markets that are predominantly in the northern part of the United Kingdom. If the refinery closes, what happens to the product that is currently coming from the North Sea? Where will it go to be refined?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Murdo Fraser

My second question, then, is: where will your current customers in the northern part of the UK—the ones who are buying your refined product—source it from?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Murdo Fraser

Okay, but will those products be refined elsewhere and not at Grangemouth?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Murdo Fraser

My questions follow on from Kevin Stewart’s line of questioning. There are currently six refineries across the UK. We understand that the Grangemouth refinery is set to close, but we are not aware that there are plans to close the others. As we heard from the previous panel, that means that customers in Scotland who are currently supplied via Grangemouth will have to source supplies from elsewhere—it might be elsewhere in the UK or elsewhere in the world—although we will still produce oil and gas from the North Sea basin. Does the Scottish Government have any concerns about energy security, given that we will lose the capacity to refine crude oil in Scotland?