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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 28 April 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

Ariane Burgess

This flowchart that I have is the route map.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

Ariane Burgess

Are you able to say what kind of reporting package will come with it?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

Ariane Burgess

I come back to the commitment to co-design. We talk a lot about ARIOB, but our papers say that the Government

“refers to its commitment to co-design those new schemes and will continue to engage with stakeholders through mechanisms including the ARIOB, wider Agriculture Reform Programme and during the passage of secondary legislation”.

Will you explain to us what the agriculture reform programme is so that we can understand it a bit more? How are you engaging with people through it? Is that what you talked about?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

Ariane Burgess

Can you give us an indication of what other things you could be getting on with? I know that you are meeting people, but are there specific chunks of work that might be coming our way or something like that?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

Ariane Burgess

Without rehashing anything that has already been brought up, my understanding is that the SSI is required to continue the SRDP payments, but it has also flagged up and brought to light the issue of the rebasing of LFASS. It has, in fact, provided a great opportunity, because we now see that people are concerned about LFASS.

I understand from reading the policy note that, in relation to the SRDP, you have not provided for reporting to 2030 because the rural support plan is coming in. The policy note says that the reporting requirement

“has not been extended until 2030, as reporting of legacy CAP schemes”—

which are all the things that we are talking about, such as LFASS, the agri-environment climate scheme and the forestry grant scheme—

“is a requirement of Rural Support Plan reporting in the ARC Act.”

Therefore, there is no need to report under the SRDP because the reporting will fit in under the rural support plan. Is the SRDP on a parallel with the rural support plan, or will it get tucked inside it, with reporting continuing in that way?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

Ariane Burgess

We definitely need some diagrams as we go forward with the programme.

The rebasing of LFASS was also flagged up. As you pointed out, the route map talks about LFASS continuing until 2026, and then it says that

“Engagement”

will be

“required with farmers and crofters on how this type of support will be delivered from 2027”.

Will you wait until that point to start addressing that or, because of the issue that has been raised, is it time to bring that work a bit further forward in your schedule? It seems like people are concerned about it.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

Ariane Burgess

On the basis of what I have read in the responses to the committee’s call for views, our discussion with the minister, the fact that this is a technical SSI, the fact that the rural support plan will require reporting to be carried out and the fact that various schemes will be transitioning and changing, I put on record the fact that I do not have a problem with the SSI and that I would like it to be passed today.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

Ariane Burgess

In a way, I already put my views on record before we got into the debate. However, we need clarity on the current situation with the SRDP and as we move into the rural support plan. I mentioned diagrams earlier, which I think might help. There needs to be clarity in that respect, because I think that that has perhaps been part of the missing piece. By that, I mean that people have not picked up on the fact that there will be reporting and that things will be going on as part of the rural support plan. It has been flagged up to me that the sector, and the people involved in it, have not understood that fully, even though information is out there. I have to say that I had a look at the websites for it, and it is not necessarily easy to understand and pick it all up. Perhaps some more work needs to be done in that area.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

Ariane Burgess

I know, but that is part of what is going on. There is a feeling that, because of the extension to 2030, we will not have any reporting, but the policy note says that the rural support plan will require that legacy schemes are reported on.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

Ariane Burgess

Okay, that is helpful. There will be reporting and you just have to do something technical to allow the reform to move forward. I feel like we need some diagrams. Perhaps that would be helpful.

When will we see the first rural support plan?