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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 27 April 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing to 2040

Meeting date: 20 February 2024

Ariane Burgess

The committee has heard a lot about the issue of workforce in relation to the need to get housing built. Even if the money to build the houses were there, would we have the people to build them?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing to 2040

Meeting date: 20 February 2024

Ariane Burgess

Brian Whittle has a supplementary question.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing to 2040

Meeting date: 20 February 2024

Ariane Burgess

Thanks for that contribution, which brings the conversation to the question that I was going to ask, which is about retrofitting and the Scottish Government’s declared town centre first approach.

Some of you might be aware that Scotland’s Towns Partnership, the Scottish Futures Trust and others are doing a roadshow on town-centre living, looking at ways of getting more people to live in town centres and acknowledging that there is a lot of potential housing in the empty spaces above commercial properties. There are about 40,000 houses on the empty homes register, but those empty spaces are not officially viewed as being potential homes.

Those properties might represent low-hanging fruit, because retrofitting and renovating those properties would, I understand, cost about a third less than it would cost to do others. Obviously, we would have to think quite carefully about how we could make them relevant for modern living—for example, quite a few will have small rooms. We could bring in designers and architects to think about how to make those spaces work.

Through the roadshow, I have seen tremendous case studies of what people are doing to renovate buildings, transform churches and so on. I am interested to hear what you think about that opportunity. How does it fit into the “Housing to 2040” vision? I invite comments from ALACHO and COSLA initially, then perhaps Callum Chomczuk can respond, too.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing to 2040

Meeting date: 20 February 2024

Ariane Burgess

Callum Chomczuk, do you want to speak on that? Does anyone else want to speak?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing to 2040

Meeting date: 20 February 2024

Ariane Burgess

You say that it must be “a live ambition”. If it were, what would be done differently?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing to 2040

Meeting date: 20 February 2024

Ariane Burgess

Thanks very much for raising that point. Pam Gosal wishes to come in with a brief supplementary.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing to 2040

Meeting date: 20 February 2024

Ariane Burgess

We will keep an eye out for that report.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing to 2040

Meeting date: 20 February 2024

Ariane Burgess

I will bring in Marie McNair, and then we will go in a rural direction with questions from Brian Whittle. We also have a series of questions on regulations under the Cost of Living (Tenant Protection) (Scotland) Act 2022.

I hope that the witnesses will bear with us as we go over a bit more; we need your good attention and thoughts for a bit longer, as your evidence is helpful.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing to 2040

Meeting date: 20 February 2024

Ariane Burgess

Before I bring in the next person, I ask for succinct answers, please, because we have gone over time quite considerably. We were hoping that this bit was going to be quick, so I ask colleagues to have a look at the questions that they want to ask and see whether any of those have already been answered sufficiently.

Jane Wood wants to come in.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing to 2040

Meeting date: 20 February 2024

Ariane Burgess

I will now bring in Stephanie Callaghan, who is online.