- Asked by: Willie Rennie, MSP for North East Fife, Scottish Liberal Democrats
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Date lodged: Wednesday, 09 February 2022
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Current Status:
Answered by Shirley-Anne Somerville on 24 February 2022
To ask the Scottish Government what its assessment is of the impact on children’s cognitive function of learning in education environments where the CO2 readings are in excess of (a) 800, (b) 1,000, (c) 1,500 and (d) 2,000 ppm, and what studies it has taken into account on this matter.
Answer
The foremost reason for us enhancing ventilation during the COVID-19 pandemic is to ensure schools are as safe as possible for children, young people and staff.
However, we are aware that good air quality should also contribute to enhancing children’s cognitive function of learning in education environments.
- Asked by: Willie Rennie, MSP for North East Fife, Scottish Liberal Democrats
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Date lodged: Wednesday, 09 February 2022
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Current Status:
Answered by Shirley-Anne Somerville on 24 February 2022
To ask the Scottish Government, further to the letter from the Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills to the Education, Children and Young People Committee on 28 January 2022, how it decided that persistent CO2 readings in excess of 1,500ppm are an indication of a persistently problematic area; what equivalent thresholds adopted by other countries for education spaces it considered, and whether it has considered any alterations to its existing guidance.
Answer
These figures are based on the latest advice from SAGE’s Environmental Modelling Group, which monitors evidence from a wide range of authoritative sources. Our guidance is reviewed as scientific advice develops.
The figures used are aligned with those used in guidance issued by the Department for Education in England and the Welsh Government.
- Asked by: Willie Rennie, MSP for North East Fife, Scottish Liberal Democrats
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Date lodged: Wednesday, 09 February 2022
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Current Status:
Answered by Shirley-Anne Somerville on 24 February 2022
To ask the Scottish Government, further to the letter from the Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills to the Education, Children and Young People Committee on 28 January 2022, for what reason information was used from the Department for Education that covered England on the average cost of air cleaning/filtration devices, and what precluded the use of data from authorities in Scotland.
Answer
The Department for Education has undertaken a review of air cleaning devices likely to be suitable for use in schools, and associated costs, to support a centralised procurement strategy. This information was therefore utilised to assist in building up our cost assumptions.
Only a small number of local authorities in Scotland have to date chosen to utilise air cleaning devices, in a very small number of problematic spaces as a temporary measure.
- Asked by: Willie Rennie, MSP for North East Fife, Scottish Liberal Democrats
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Date lodged: Wednesday, 09 February 2022
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Current Status:
Answered by Shirley-Anne Somerville on 24 February 2022
To ask the Scottish Government, further to the letter from the Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills to the Education, Children and Young People Committee on 28 January 2022, whether it will publish all the advice that it received from Scottish Futures Trust that it used to make its “educated assumptions” on the provision of the £5 million schools/ELC ventilation fund.
Answer
The example scenario used to generate overall costings for the up-to-£5m funding was developed with input from the Scottish Futures Trust, and drew on the costings that had already been developed for the Business Ventilation Fund with input from the expert Covid-19 Ventilation Short Life Working Group.
As was made clear in the letter to the Committee, an undercut of a door was only one element of the example set of remedial measures used to calculate the up-to-£5m fund. The other elements that formed part of the example were temporary use of an air cleaning device and installation of small mechanical ventilation units.
Inclusion of the potential for a door undercut in the example is fully in line with expert advice. This makes clear that undercuts (small gaps at the bottom of a door) allow air pressure to be equalised on each side of the door, to ensure that additional force on one side does not make the door difficult to open. This includes cases where the pressure increase caused by mechanical ventilation systems – another key element of the example scenario – could impair the normal safe operation of a door. It was for this reason that this element was included in the example scenario.
- Asked by: Willie Rennie, MSP for North East Fife, Scottish Liberal Democrats
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Date lodged: Wednesday, 09 February 2022
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Current Status:
Answered by Shirley-Anne Somerville on 24 February 2022
To ask the Scottish Government, further to the letter from the Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills to the Education, Children and Young People Committee on 28 January 2022, whether the £300,000 it assumed for the cost of undercutting doors, in calculating the £5 million schools/ELC ventilation fund, may be spent (a) in part or (b) entirely on other ventilation priorities, and whether there will be any financial consequences for local authorities that decline to undercut doors.
Answer
My letter to the Committee stated explicitly:
“In order to calculate the £5m schools/ELC ventilation fund, we have assumed an example set of remedial measures which could be taken for each problematic space although this will vary depending on local decisions.”
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“ It is very important to note that these costs will of course vary significantly in practice, as the precise remedial measures used in each problematic space should be informed by local circumstances and expert assessment by local authority teams .”
An undercut of a door was therefore clearly indicated as only one element of an example set of remedial measures used to calculate the up-to-£5m fund.
All local authorities have been informed of their potential allocations from the up-to-£5 million fund. Our funding letter makes clear that remedial action should be undertaken in line with guidance on ventilation, with problematic spaces prioritised for action.
Once remedial action in priority spaces has been prioritised, funding can also be used to further support CO2 monitoring requirements, or to undertake other remedial work on ventilation.
- Asked by: Willie Rennie, MSP for North East Fife, Scottish Liberal Democrats
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Date lodged: Wednesday, 09 February 2022
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Current Status:
Answered by Shirley-Anne Somerville on 24 February 2022
To ask the Scottish Government, further to the letter from the Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills to the Education, Children and Young People Committee on 28 January 2022, what criteria and definitions were used for categorising a learning, teaching or play space as “problematic” in relation to ventilation; what CO2 reading thresholds were taken into account; whether it will publish details of the descriptions of other categories, broken down by the number of spaces that fall into each category, and whether it considers that the remaining 48,000 spaces are not problematic.
Answer
Our guidance on ventilation for schools, updated most recently in December 2021, indicates that problematic spaces are where readings above 1500ppm are persistent despite mitigation measures being taken. Areas of high aerosol activity may use 800ppm as the threshold for high CO2 concentration.
Ventilation is a complex issue requiring, among other things, ongoing monitoring and management. For example, changes in room use or weather conditions can result in assessments of air quality changing over time, requiring fresh remedial action.
The Scottish Government has agreed formal reporting requirements regarding the number of remaining problematic spaces with local authorities. We will provide an update to the Education, Children and Young People Committee in due course, subject to receipt of local authority returns.
- Asked by: Willie Rennie, MSP for North East Fife, Scottish Liberal Democrats
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Date lodged: Wednesday, 09 February 2022
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Current Status:
Answered by Shirley-Anne Somerville on 24 February 2022
To ask the Scottish Government whether it will provide an update on whether it has (a) contacted and (b) been contacted by the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service regarding its announcement of £300,000 for the undercutting of doors in educational spaces, and whether it will publish all associated documentation, including any minutes and correspondence.
Answer
Scottish Government officials have spoken with the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (SFRS) regarding this matter.
SFRS have close working relationships with all Local Authorities, particularly when it comes to fire safety in educational establishments. SFRS have confirmed that they understand the Scottish Government’s approach in seeking to improve ventilation in schools and, in line with business as usual fire safety processes and procedures, they are happy to provide advice and support to Local Authorities regarding any changes to structures which may have an impact upon Fire Risk Assessments.
- Asked by: Willie Rennie, MSP for North East Fife, Scottish Liberal Democrats
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Date lodged: Wednesday, 09 February 2022
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Current Status:
Answered by Shirley-Anne Somerville on 24 February 2022
To ask the Scottish Government, further to the letter from the Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills to the Education, Children and Young People Committee on 28 January 2022, whether it will publish a breakdown of the number of problematic spaces by (a) local authority and (b) school.
Answer
Data is currently being collected within local authorities and will be returned to the Scottish Government to provide a national perspective. We intend to provide the Committee with an update on the overall national picture early next month, subject to receipt of local authority returns.
The Scottish Government does not hold information on the number of problematic spaces in specific schools. This information will be held by local authorities as it is their statutory responsibility to manage their school estate.
- Asked by: Willie Rennie, MSP for North East Fife, Scottish Liberal Democrats
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Date lodged: Wednesday, 09 February 2022
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Current Status:
Answered by Shirley-Anne Somerville on 24 February 2022
To ask the Scottish Government, further to the letter from the Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills to the Education, Children and Young People Committee on 28 January 2022, whether it will publish the feedback that it received on the proposal to undercut doors.
Answer
There is no such proposal.
As was made clear in the letter to the Committee, an undercut of a door was only one element of the example set of remedial measures used to illustrate the appropriate level of overall additional funding that might be needed to tackle problematic spaces. The other elements that formed part of the example were temporary use of an air cleaning device and installation of small mechanical ventilation units.
Local authorities are fully aware that they should undertake any remedial work in line with Scottish Government guidance on ventilation and expert input.
- Asked by: Willie Rennie, MSP for North East Fife, Scottish Liberal Democrats
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Date lodged: Wednesday, 09 February 2022
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Current Status:
Answered by Shirley-Anne Somerville on 24 February 2022
To ask the Scottish Government, further to the letter from the Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills to the Education, Children and Young People Committee on 28 January 2022, how many classes it anticipates will “relocate to alternative spaces while alternative, longer-term measures are put in place”; whether it will update the Parliament on the number of classrooms that are taken out of use on this basis, and whether it has assessed how many alternative spaces are available.
Answer
It is the statutory responsibility of local authorities to manage their school estate. The precise details regarding the number of spaces where this approach has been used to manage specific ventilation issues is not held by the Scottish Government.