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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 4 April 2025
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Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Framework Legislation and Henry VIII Powers

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Jeremy Balfour

Mr Jones, from a UK or Westminster perspective, we hear about co-design as well. Does that take place post or pre a framework bill being passed?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Framework Legislation and Henry VIII Powers

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Jeremy Balfour

I have a very brief question before you depart.

As you pointed out, secondary legislation cannot be amended—it is either accepted or rejected. It has been put to us that there should be some way in which a committee could seek conversations with the Government about amending secondary legislation or flag up that, for example, it agrees with 80 per cent of an instrument but has concerns about 20 per cent of it. The committee could ask the Government to go away and think about the issue again. Would that work, or is it something that sounds good in theory but, in practice, might not help?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Framework Legislation and Henry VIII Powers

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Jeremy Balfour

Do you have a view on that, Mr Carson?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Framework Legislation and Henry VIII Powers

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Jeremy Balfour

Mr Gibson, in your experience of a number of different committees, is there a role for the lead committee in taking further evidence between stage 2 and stage 3?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Framework Legislation and Henry VIII Powers

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Jeremy Balfour

I think that our witnesses have touched on this next issue, but they might want to expand on what was said. One of the Government’s justifications for having such bills is that it wants to make the process much more about consultation and taking stakeholders with it. The Government argues that that is easier to do once a framework bill has been passed. Are you sympathetic to that view, or should the consultation and development of policy with stakeholders take place before a bill appears in Parliament?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Framework Legislation and Henry VIII Powers

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Jeremy Balfour

Would it be helpful to have some kind of framework whereby, if there was a major change in policy between stage 1 and stage 2, there would be an opportunity for the relevant committees to carry out further scrutiny before stage 3? Could that work in practice, or would it just make more work for the committees?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Scotland

Meeting date: 16 January 2025

Jeremy Balfour

Good morning, panel. I remind colleagues that I am on ADP.

I had a very helpful meeting—or I thought it was helpful—with Ally MacPhail and his colleagues just before Christmas to discuss key performance indicators. I am surprised that this far down the road we still do not have a process that we can monitor from end to end or that records how each claim is doing. It makes it very difficult for the Government and for this committee to scrutinise the system to see whether it is working and to make sure that we are getting value for money. Where are we on that process, how long will it take and for what reasons it is taking so long to deliver a system where we can see a breakdown of each stage of the process, from when someone applies to when they get the final decision?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Scotland

Meeting date: 16 January 2025

Jeremy Balfour

That is not the point. I am asking about data collection. Why has the system not been designed in such a way as to get the information? At the moment, when you write to a general practitioner, how long it takes for that GP or medical professional to write back is not monitored. For me, that would be a key indicator of how the system is working. I appreciate that the agency is delivering all those benefits but that is not the issue. The issue is around the performance indicators. Why was the system not designed to provide such indicators in the first place?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Scotland

Meeting date: 16 January 2025

Jeremy Balfour

I think that the passing on of data to the First-tier Tribunal is meant to happen without paper; it is meant to happen through IT. Having spoken to a few former colleagues, there seem to be some issues with that working efficiently at the moment. Is there a problem and how quickly can that issue be resolved so that everything is not done on paper but through IT?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Scotland

Meeting date: 16 January 2025

Jeremy Balfour

I find that quite surprising. We designed a new system from scratch less than eight years ago and yet now we are saying that the system cannot do what we want it to do. Either that is the fault of whoever designed the programme at Scottish Government level or there is something wrong within Social Security Scotland. It is not an old system; it is a system that is eight years and younger, and yet you are telling me that it has not been designed in such a way that we can monitor that information. There seems to have been some kind of breakdown somewhere, either within the design team or within your staff.