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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 21 December 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 March 2024

Jeremy Balfour

This might be a daft-laddie question, but what happens at the moment? Lynne Macfarlane, is there an agreement between the DWP and Social Security Scotland? What happens day in, day out? Some benefits have been devolved, but the recovery powers in the bill have not been enacted yet.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 March 2024

Jeremy Balfour

This is probably not within your area, but I will ask my question just in case it is. In the financial memorandum, I noticed that it is estimated that it will cost £3.78 million to implement the scheme, which seems quite a lot of money to me. Will you unpack what we get for that £3.78 million and explain why it is so expensive?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 March 2024

Jeremy Balfour

I have a couple of questions. I am sorry—my mind is working a bit slowly this morning. I go back to the question about the appeal processes being different for Social Security Scotland and the DWP. Is it possible under the agreement, if it is signed by the two parties, that one party could waive its right of appeal and allow either Social Security Scotland or the DWP to do the whole process? Would that legally be possible?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 March 2024

Jeremy Balfour

At the moment, if I am on a benefit in Scotland, is that not included in any certificate that is presented to the court?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Scotland

Meeting date: 28 March 2024

Jeremy Balfour

Thank you.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 March 2024

Jeremy Balfour

This is my final question, you will be glad to hear. The bill includes a power to create a criminal offence for failure to comply with the requirements of an investigation. Are witnesses familiar with any similar powers in the current system, and do you have any comment on whether it is reasonable to make it a criminal offence to neglect to comply with an investigation?

Your light has gone on, Lynne, so we obviously think that the question is for you.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Scotland

Meeting date: 28 March 2024

Jeremy Balfour

In its written submission, VoiceAbility raised concerns about the availability of interpretation services. Do you have any experience of supporting clients who need interpretation or translation services and, if so, is that causing a delay?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Scotland

Meeting date: 28 March 2024

Jeremy Balfour

I have a quick question to clarify what has been said. Some of the changes that the witnesses have suggested with regard to how the appeal process would work would need a change in the primary legislation. It is not purely about administration and filling out forms. If we were to go to a one appeal or redetermination process, we would need to change the 2018 act. Is that correct?

Mr Gass is nodding—can you just say yes for the record?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 March 2024

Jeremy Balfour

I think that you have probably covered this issue, but I will give you one final opportunity to talk about the client experience. You have caveated your view of the bill with what you just said, but, outwith that, is there anything that you are still concerned about relating to the client experience? Are there things that need to be in the bill, or things that need to come out of it, to make the client experience easier? You have covered a lot of that already, but this is a final sweep up of any other comments that you might want to make.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 March 2024

Jeremy Balfour

We are still in the early days, so there will not have been many First-tier Tribunal hearings yet, but my understanding is that almost all of them now take place either online or by telephone. Is that a disadvantage for the people whom you work for? Would a face-to-face meeting be easier on some occasions? Should that be the norm rather than the exception?