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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 April 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 September 2023

Jeremy Balfour

Obviously, we will support the regulations this morning. However, I have made the point on numerous occasions—and I will make it again—that I think that the process is slightly flawed. We take evidence from the cabinet secretary and then immediately have to vote on the regulations. As a Parliament, we have to look at the fact that, even if what the cabinet secretary has said today causes us concern, we have no option but to vote either for or against the regulations, and the Scottish Government has no time to reflect on the questions that we have asked. That is a procedural rather than a substantial issue.

There is still concern about some individuals, particularly in certain education settings, being left behind. In your answers, cabinet secretary, you said that there are varying views on the matter. The evidence that we have taken as a committee is that the payment should be made. I am grateful that you have said that you are going to look at the matter again, and I hope that we can look at it sooner rather than later. The danger, once we pass regulations as a Parliament, is that we then move on to the next thing and leave people behind. I hope that you will take what we and you have heard seriously and that some amended regulations can be brought forward in this parliamentary session. I am interested to know whether that is the timescale that you would be looking at, if you were to bring forward changes.

I also look forward to seeing the proposals in your bill, later this year, which will deal with the overpayment issue and the right of appeal. Again, we have taken evidence on that.

As someone who benefits from unpaid care, I think that we all recognise the massive role that unpaid carers play in our society. Often, those individuals do not necessarily want to do it but are put in a position whereby they have to do it because of their family situation—geographically or just because of how their family is made up. I welcome what we are doing here, as a Parliament, and I think that it will make a difference to individual lives. However, as you said, we do not want to leave anyone behind. I would welcome a mention—perhaps in your summing up—of the timescale that you are looking at for at least thinking about bringing in any changes.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 28 September 2023

Jeremy Balfour

Thank you.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 September 2023

Jeremy Balfour

Okay. That is helpful.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 September 2023

Jeremy Balfour

Cabinet secretary, can you give us a timetable for the completion of a transfer and the introduction of further changes to the carer support payment?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 September 2023

Jeremy Balfour

On your discussions with Social Security Scotland, there have been some delays in other areas. Is it confident that it has enough staff to meet the target?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 28 September 2023

Jeremy Balfour

No.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 28 September 2023

Jeremy Balfour

At a previous meeting, the committee heard that, in addition to children, other groups of people are suffering from poverty, including young single people and older people, and that they need further support, too. First, do you agree? That will probably be a fairly straightforward answer. Secondly, how can the Scottish Government take that into account in its budget decisions?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 28 September 2023

Jeremy Balfour

Thank you.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 September 2023

Jeremy Balfour

Good morning to you and your team, cabinet secretary. It is always good to have you at committee. You might have seen that, last week, witnesses refuted the Scottish Government’s arguments for excluding 16 to 19-year-old carers who are in full-time non-advanced education from claiming CSP. What were the evidence and rationale for that decision?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 28 September 2023

Jeremy Balfour

The deputy convener has raised really interesting points, and I was interested in Paul Bradley’s response. I ask him to provide written examples of what he was talking about to the committee. Obviously, an organisation might not want to be named, but it would be helpful to have real-life cases that we can take up with the Scottish Government.

We are looking at this year’s budget, but we also need to look to future years. The Scottish Fiscal Commission has highlighted that there will be a fairly major gap of more than £1 billion in the budget over the next two to three years. Paul, I know that you said that you do not talk about taxation, but, using more general terminology, where do you think we should be going to bridge that gap? Do you or your members have any views on that?