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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 April 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 March 2024

Jeremy Balfour

Thank you. I will move on. One of the principles in the policy memorandum says that

“the person who benefited from the overpaid sums will, ultimately, be liable to repay them.”

Does that justify making individuals liable for overpayments caused by their representatives? I am happy for anyone to jump in on that one.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Visitor Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Jeremy Balfour

Good morning, minister and colleagues. Amendment 19 is specifically on people with disability but, before I go on to that, I will add one comment to my colleague’s remarks on amendment 37. In Edinburgh, we have Ronald MacDonald House, which is attached to the sick kids hospital and allows parents to stay for a number of months. Without an exemption as proposed by Miles Briggs, either the charity would have to pick up the charge or parents who are going through a stressful period would have to do so. I am interested in whether that is the Scottish Government’s intention or whether it wants to prevent charities or vulnerable parents from having to pay the levy.

On amendment 19, we know from all the information that we get in the Parliament that people with disability are often in the poorest categories of our society. They have extra costs when travelling because of what they have to bring and because they often have to bring a carer with them for a trip, whether it is a short or long trip—it is often short—and wherever they go in the UK. Any extra cost for a disabled person will put them off having a break that they and perhaps their family require.

I am seeking to ensure that anyone who is on a benefit from the Department for Work and Pensions or, in Scotland, through Social Security Scotland, is exempt from the levy. I understand from reading the stage 1 report and from conversations with others that there is concern in the industry about how to implement that—Daniel Johnson has picked up that point already. However, such a scheme works in many places already. For example, if you go to the Festival theatre or the Playhouse in Edinburgh, when you turn up to book your ticket, you show your letter from either Social Security Scotland or the Department for Work and Pensions, which shows that you receive an award, and then you get an exemption. The system works in many other sectors. If you go to Alton Towers, Euro Disney or similar venues, they all have that in place, and it is easily managed.

Quite a lot of reporting has been done on the issue. Very little fraud takes place around the scheme, and it is easy for the people who have to implement it. Each year, the DWP or Social Security Scotland issues a letter to confirm that someone is on an award for disability benefit. People could then show that to the accommodation provider.

I appreciate that the minister might want to consider the matter further, so I would welcome him saying whether he is willing to meet me to discuss the issue before stage 3. If he is willing to do that, and unless he is minded to accept amendment 19 today, I will not move it, to allow for further discussion.

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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 March 2024

Jeremy Balfour

Richard, do you have experience of that in Glasgow?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 March 2024

Jeremy Balfour

I have no questions in this area, convener.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 March 2024

Jeremy Balfour

It is for anyone: I open it up widely.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 March 2024

Jeremy Balfour

Yes, I am happy to do so. My understanding is that, during Covid, hearings of the First-tier Tribunal either went online or took place over the telephone. A number of people have told me that those tribunal hearings are still happening over the telephone. From your experience, is that the best way to do it, or should we go back to their being face to face, as they were pre-Covid? Erica, it looks like you want to jump in.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 March 2024

Jeremy Balfour

I should point out, for the record, that I was previously a member of the First-tier Tribunal.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 March 2024

Jeremy Balfour

My question is for Erica Young. To broaden things out slightly, this is an opportunity for the Parliament to introduce a new social security benefit, if it wants to. Given the work that you do, if you had a magic wand and could introduce a new benefit, what would that be and who would you target it at?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 March 2024

Jeremy Balfour

I open the question to others. If we could introduce a new benefit, what should it be?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 March 2024

Jeremy Balfour

I have a couple of technical questions, and I will perhaps start with you, Mr Clancy.

Due to timing, the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee has not fully examined the delegated powers in the bill, but they are quite far reaching and wide. From a legal perspective, are you satisfied that the balance is about right regarding the powers that have been delegated to the Scottish Government, or should we take a bit more evidence on that?