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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 April 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 March 2024

Jeremy Balfour

Good morning, and thank you for coming. My question is about representation of your clients. My understanding is that someone can tick a box and you can represent them for three months but that, after that, they must go back to Social Security Scotland. Is that causing you any problems? Would it be easier if someone could tick a box to say, for example, that they want to be represented from the start to whenever the final decision is made?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 March 2024

Jeremy Balfour

Thank you. That is really helpful. I will open this up slightly wider, as this is a chance for the committee and the Parliament to review the proposed legislation. Is there anything that you would like to see in the bill that is not in it? I appreciate that you have only a few minutes and that you could go on for a long time on that subject.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Extra Costs of Disability

Meeting date: 21 March 2024

Jeremy Balfour

I suppose that that is the issue that I am trying to work out, Dr Robertson. Personally, I probably fall into income group 5, but if you increase adult disability payment, I will benefit as much as somebody in income group 1. I do not have the answer, but I am trying to work out how we increase the income of groups 1, 2 and 3, maybe, but not necessarily of groups 4 and 5, because those people, although they will have extra costs, can probably meet those costs. I am looking for a way to identify those individuals. Maybe the data is not yet available, and we need to get that, but I am concerned that, if we universally increase incomes, although everyone benefits, it will not benefit enough those who need it more—if that makes sense.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 March 2024

Jeremy Balfour

I think that you have probably covered this issue, but I will give you one final opportunity to talk about the client experience. You have caveated your view of the bill with what you just said, but, outwith that, is there anything that you are still concerned about relating to the client experience? Are there things that need to be in the bill, or things that need to come out of it, to make the client experience easier? You have covered a lot of that already, but this is a final sweep up of any other comments that you might want to make.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 March 2024

Jeremy Balfour

We are still in the early days, so there will not have been many First-tier Tribunal hearings yet, but my understanding is that almost all of them now take place either online or by telephone. Is that a disadvantage for the people whom you work for? Would a face-to-face meeting be easier on some occasions? Should that be the norm rather than the exception?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Extra Costs of Disability

Meeting date: 21 March 2024

Jeremy Balfour

It is helpful to read this report in the light of the other report that the Fraser of Allander Institute did recently on disability and employment. The reports go quite well together, and I will raise questions about that. I would like to ask a number of questions, but, given the time, I will ask one long question.

The deputy convener will always tell me that we have political choices to make about how we spend our money, and he is absolutely right. However, may I put that to you and ask whether, if you had another £20 million to spend, you would create a universal benefit for disabled people? Would you increase the disability payment, or would you target that money in some way?

I think that Dr Robertson said that there is not one need—disabled people have different needs—so, if we had that money, how would we target it? Would you create a universal benefit or is there a more nuanced way to do that?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 March 2024

Jeremy Balfour

Do you think that the bill aligns with the social security principles? That would be a good exam question.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Extra Costs of Disability

Meeting date: 21 March 2024

Jeremy Balfour

The Fraser of Allander Institute. [Laughter.]

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Minister for Parliamentary Business

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

Jeremy Balfour

Not too late a date.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Minister for Parliamentary Business

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

Jeremy Balfour

There is a political argument that you could hold the consultation before the bill is introduced and still have the flexibility. Like my colleague Mr Mundell, I think that, purely on a philosophical level, there is a tension; I do not think that it is a political one. I have the same concerns about what sometimes happens at Westminster. You could hold the consultation before the bill comes to Parliament, so that Parliament still gets the final say.