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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 4 April 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Adult Disability Payment

Meeting date: 16 December 2021

Jeremy Balfour

I will start with an open question. Many of you have been on the journey of watching the regulations and the primary legislation going through over the past five years. One concern that I have is that we have not seen enough changes, particularly in relation to variable conditions and the higher rate of the mobility component. If we could make changes in relation to variability and mobility, what difference would that make to the people who you represent? I will start with Keith Park.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Adult Disability Payment

Meeting date: 16 December 2021

Jeremy Balfour

Ed Pybus raises an interesting point. Ultimately, decisions on these matters are made in the Supreme Court. It will be interesting to see how it interprets two different sets of regulations, but that may be a matter for the legal eagles.

I am interested in Judith Paterson’s point about the safe transfer, which we all want to happen. That has overridden the commission’s view that we should not have any changes. Will you expand on how you came to that decision? Was it a result of consultation with the third sector or was it a pragmatic view that the commission came to?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Third Sector Recovery

Meeting date: 9 December 2021

Jeremy Balfour

Suzie Burt, how has the relationship been for you, as somebody who has recently started a charity?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Third Sector Recovery

Meeting date: 9 December 2021

Jeremy Balfour

I add my thanks for all the work that our witnesses have done. As someone who has worked in the third sector, I acknowledge the pressure that a lot of them are under.

Paul Bradley, going back to last year and the funding that came from the Scottish and UK Governments, I got quite a lot of feedback over the last summer that a lot of the money went to the big charities—the headline charities, which I will not name—while a lot of smaller charities that do more work on the ground struggled to get that money. Is that just whingeing on the part of the small charities or is there any truth behind that? Going forward, how we can get the money to the people who are doing the work, rather than those who might shout loudest?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Third Sector Recovery

Meeting date: 9 December 2021

Jeremy Balfour

I have two quick questions. My question to Ian Bruce is similar to one that I put to the other panel. Looking at lessons learned from last year, do you think, from talking with the people you are involved with, that the money that came from the Scottish Government and the UK Government got down to the charities that were dealing with the most need on the ground? Did you hear any stories about funding being blocked by the larger charities or not getting to the people who were actually doing the work?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Third Sector Recovery

Meeting date: 9 December 2021

Jeremy Balfour

The issue of reserves and how they are held is an interesting one.

I would like to quickly address the theme of the future reform of how charities are regulated, as we have Martin Tyson here. The Government has announced that legislation to reform OSCR and its practice will be introduced this session. As someone who is a trustee of lots of small charities, the system seems to be heavy on paperwork. Martin Tyson, are you conscious that small charities often have to fill in the same amount of paperwork as the large charities? How do we get around that? Perhaps Paul Bradford and others could tell us what reforms they would like to see, from the charities’ perspective.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Third Sector Recovery

Meeting date: 9 December 2021

Jeremy Balfour

My final question is for Paul Bradley. As we come out of this pandemic—hopefully we will do so at some point—do you think that a lot of smaller and medium-sized charities will start merging? Will there be a redefining of the sector because of what has happened in the past two years or will the landscape look fairly similar three years from now?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Third Sector Recovery

Meeting date: 9 December 2021

Jeremy Balfour

That is helpful. I am very conscious of time, so I ask for brief answers to my next question. The issue of your organisations’ relationship with OSCR and the reform of charity law is likely to come up within the next five years. Are there changes that you would like to be made? Is the system overly bureaucratic, in relation to the number of forms that you have to fill in, or is it about right?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Scotland

Meeting date: 2 December 2021

Jeremy Balfour

I have two questions. First, following up on that final point, Audit Scotland reported that recruiting people with clinical experience was a cause for particular concern and that the pandemic may have made that worse. Are you looking at different opportunities, such as working part time or even working through an agency, so that a person might do one day a week for you but continue working as a nurse or occupational therapist the rest of the time? Or is it just one model fits all?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Scotland

Meeting date: 2 December 2021

Jeremy Balfour

Secondly, and this is probably a slightly longer question, the adult disability payment is coming in next year. We have seen the draft regulations. Whether the regulations are agreed to or altered will be a political decision made by the Parliament. If the Parliament decided that everybody should be transferred as is, and then decided to increase the mobility threshold from 20m to 50m and that came in next year, would the agency have the capacity to deliver that decision, or would you need more staff? If the regulations were not just approved but altered to give more people the opportunity to apply, could you deliver that? If you could not, by when would you need that parliamentary decision to be made, so that you could bring in more staff?