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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 April 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Bankruptcy and Diligence (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 November 2023

Tom Arthur

I mean the money advice sector, but I recognise that there is already overlap and that there should be co-ordinated working between that sector and mental health professionals.

If, subject to the Parliament’s agreement, the regulations come into effect, there will be a focus on ensuring that there is the broadest possible awareness. We are committed to using the resources at our disposal to ensure that there is the broadest possible awareness of the scheme and that there is understanding of how it can be applied to support the people whom it is designed to benefit.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Bankruptcy and Diligence (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 November 2023

Tom Arthur

In true “Blue Peter” fashion, I already have a copy of the leaflet to share with the committee.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Bankruptcy and Diligence (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 November 2023

Tom Arthur

I can confirm that we are reviewing the contents of the leaflet and that we will engage with representatives of the advice sector. Picking up on Kevin Stewart’s point, we will do further engagement with those who have direct experience of using the leaflet to help inform the consideration and review process. We have copies of the leaflet available for any member who is interested and wants to consider it in more detail.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Bankruptcy and Diligence (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 November 2023

Tom Arthur

It is anticipated that the number of individuals who use the scheme will be relatively low, so we anticipate that the additional demand that will be placed on the sector will be minimal, at least initially. Of course, we will want to carefully monitor the number of individuals who use the scheme and continue to have close engagement with the sector to ensure that, if capacity issues that relate specifically to the introduction of the mental health moratorium are identified, we are in a position to understand and respond to those challenges.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Bankruptcy and Diligence (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 November 2023

Tom Arthur

As we have previously stated, when the consensus is that the pressures of the cost of living crisis have abated, we will reconsider the position. However, given the challenges that we currently face—it is very much a live issue that is causing significant distress to many households—there are no immediate plans to change from the current provision of six months.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Bankruptcy and Diligence (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 November 2023

Tom Arthur

I want to ensure that I provide clarity here. I understand the exceptional pressure that the money advice sector is currently under, which, in many respects, is a consequence of the cost of living crisis. I pay tribute to those who work in the money advice sector, commend them for the invaluable work that they do and recognise the significant toll that it can have on their wellbeing and mental health, which I know has been reflected in evidence to the committee. It is not the kind of job that allows people to just go home at night and switch off. The work that they do stays with them, and I commend all those who do that invaluable work.

As Richard Dennis touched on, we recognise that there is a strong desire across the sector to be involved in the mental health moratorium, but we also recognise—given the numbers involved and the more specialist nature of that particular case load—that there might be a case for taking a different approach. That is why we have flagged that specific issue in the consultation and posed a question on it. The responses that we get to the consultation, any reflections that the committee has in its stage 1 report, and our further engagement with the sector will help us to land on a position where we can command the broadest consensus.

We are all focused on ensuring that the best service possible is provided for those individuals who require it. I know that money advisers are also focused on that, which is why we are open to the process of engagement. We recognise the sector’s desire to engage, but we appreciate that there may be other means of delivering that support.

Would you like to add anything, Richard?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Bankruptcy and Diligence (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 November 2023

Tom Arthur

I do not think that there has been any specific discussion, although Richard Dennis might correct me on that. I am aware that the committee has raised the issue and I would be happy to reflect further on that and to raise it directly with the UK Government as the legislation progresses through Parliament.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Bankruptcy and Diligence (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 November 2023

Tom Arthur

I will ask Richard Dennis to come in with the detail on that.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Bankruptcy and Diligence (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 November 2023

Tom Arthur

I would be happy to have further conversations about that. I would be keen to get a sense of the committee’s view in the light of the views that others might express. We are having to take account of the impact that varying provision would have on employers. With regards to uprating, there is the question whether that is an exceptional one-off event, or whether the committee takes the view that there should be an underlying rationale for a more predictable rhythm of uplifts to reflect other circumstances, such as prevailing economic conditions. We need to recognise that, as well-intentioned as any such decision would be, it also creates administrative and compliance burdens for others, which we would want to take into account.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Bankruptcy and Diligence (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 November 2023

Tom Arthur

I recognise the issue. If arrestments are taking place that are inhibiting people from paying their council tax, that creates an additional problem. I know that witnesses have raised that issue. I am happy to have further engagement about that, recognising that we have the means to address that through existing powers and secondary legislation.