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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 1 April 2025
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COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement

Meeting date: 30 September 2021

Alex Cole-Hamilton

Deputy First Minister, Murdo Fraser brought to our attention what I think is the most striking admission in the Government’s evidence paper, which was published last night—that Scotland, when it introduces vaccination certification, will be the only country in Europe to bring in such a scheme in isolation, without a requirement for testing. Murdo Fraser asked you about that, and I wrote down part of your answer. You said that the Government did not want to undermine vaccination uptake.

Do you have empirical evidence from other European countries that have brought in certification in tandem with testing requirements that suggests that vaccination uptake has been inhibited by that combination of measures?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement

Meeting date: 30 September 2021

Alex Cole-Hamilton

That seems slightly at odds with the messaging in the Government’s evidence paper, which was published last night.

In section 5.1, which is about the basis for the introduction of vaccination certification, the very first bullet point is about reducing transmission. Increasing vaccine uptake is ancillary to that—it is the fourth bullet point. I recognise that—

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement

Meeting date: 30 September 2021

Alex Cole-Hamilton

I am more than happy to concede on that.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Vaccination Certification

Meeting date: 23 September 2021

Alex Cole-Hamilton

I will be very brief, convener, and I am grateful to you for letting me in.

In the interests of time, I will ask a couple of yes or no questions. Professor Montgomery, you referred in your opening remarks to a festival in Cornwall called, I think, Boardmasters, that required vaccination passports for entry. Nevertheless, 5,000 people still got sick. Was there a requirement to provide evidence of a negative lateral flow test at that festival, too?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Vaccination Certification

Meeting date: 23 September 2021

Alex Cole-Hamilton

Thank you very much.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Vaccination Certification

Meeting date: 23 September 2021

Alex Cole-Hamilton

Okay. That was very helpful. So, even though everyone knew that everyone else was double-jabbed and people were presenting their lateral flow test results, 5,000 people still got sick. It just shows that this is not a foolproof approach.

Judith Robertson, you made it very clear—indeed, I wrote it down—that states and Governments can set aside their duty to act compatibly with rights such as the right to family life, privacy and freedom of thought only if it were necessary to address a pressing social need. What if the Government does not act compatibly with those rights and does not present any evidence that such a move is necessary to address a social need? Is there a sanction that would apply?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Vaccination Certification

Meeting date: 23 September 2021

Alex Cole-Hamilton

From what you have said today, you do not seem to be satisfied that—as yet—you have seen sufficient evidence from the Government that the measure is necessary to address a very pressing social need. In fact, we have seen from the festival in Cornwall evidence to the contrary that it does not actually do so. What evidence would satisfy the requirement to set aside those very important human rights?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Vaccination Certification

Meeting date: 23 September 2021

Alex Cole-Hamilton

This is obviously a very controversial issue; indeed, the Night Time Industries Association has just mounted a legal challenge against the proposal. If the Government were to be found sitting on compelling empirical evidence that suggests that the measure is an effective means of addressing this very pressing social need, would that surprise you? After all, if I was in Government and had that evidence, I would rush it out and put it to the fore.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 23 September 2021

Alex Cole-Hamilton

Thank you, convener. I am grateful to be here. I have no interests to declare.