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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 April 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Brian Whittle

I am sorry to labour the point, but you talked about significant investments that are in the pipeline, and you said that investment was mostly in SMEs. The amount of money that you are investing in projects is significant. How do smaller SMEs that do not, traditionally, look for such levels of investment, access the just transition fund?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Brian Whittle

Ronan, is there anything that you want to add to that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Brian Whittle

Where have we heard that before? We should be aligning bus and rail timetables. I will leave it there.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Brian Whittle

Good morning. I will be brief. I will ask my question in two parts. The first part is to Jordan Jack and the second is to Mike Duncan.

The Scottish Government has a target of reducing car mileage by 20 per cent by 2030. I am interested in the impact. Currently, we are trying to prevent cars from coming into city centres. I had my own experience of that in Aberdeen a couple of weeks ago, as I tried to navigate my way around, having not been there for a while. First, I wonder whether our public transport system has the capability to pick up the slack, if you like, of people travelling into and out of our city centres for purchases or for work. Secondly, what will be the impact on our city centres of preventing people from coming in and out by car for work and to shop when it comes to recruitment and retention and turnover for businesses? Jordan Jack, is the north-east set up to take up a reduction in cars?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Brian Whittle

I thought that SNIB funded £5 million and up, and that Scottish Enterprise funded £1 million to £5 million.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Brian Whittle

With that in mind, Suzanne Sosna, in terms of what SE is doing just now, how do we maintain that advantage? We are charging ahead, as far as I can see, in offshore wind and onshore wind. As I said this morning, I am a massive green hydrogen fan and I think that we are behind the curve with that. We are probably behind the curve in carbon capture and, potentially, in heat. How do we bring all that into the just transition at pace?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Brian Whittle

Good morning. My question has changed several times over the past five minutes, while I have been listening to what you have been saying. We understand the opportunities that renewables technologies bring—not just to the north-east but to Scotland.

I am also aware that so much innovation and blue-sky thinking is going on. It is very exciting to watch that innovation. Are the UK and Scottish Governments doing enough to support and develop innovation in order to make sure that we are at the forefront and that we have the commercial success that will, as per my colleague Colin Smyth’s questioning, lead to the increase in jobs? I would rather be looking for people to come into jobs than have too many people. That is for you first, Professor de Leeuw.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Brian Whittle

I should say that I have an interest in green hydrogen. The talk just now is about the idea of building a pipeline across to Germany, which is obviously hugely exciting, but surely that does not have to be the first step. We have the capability of the deep-water ports at Hunterston, and last week we were up in Aberdeen, seeing what was being done up there. Why are we not focusing on those things as a step towards delivering the marketplace that you have been talking about, before we get to building a pipeline? Surely that would be a much quicker option.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Brian Whittle

Thank you. I will leave it there, convener.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Brian Whittle

Good morning to the panel. I want to tease out a few points that were made earlier.

Obviously, there are significant opportunities for Scotland in renewable technologies. We want a green economy, and we are well advanced in things such as onshore and offshore wind energy. We are doing particularly well in those, but maybe we are behind the curve a bit on things such as hydrogen.

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On the practicalities of a just transition, we have already heard that the growth of the green economy is not matching the decline in oil and gas jobs. That matching is where we need to be for a just transition. How can we create the sector for people to transition into? Are we supporting innovation enough to ensure that we are creating commercial success that gives confidence to those who want to transition and move into the sector?