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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 April 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Glasgow Prestwick Airport

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Brian Whittle

Good morning, gentlemen. I declare a lifelong interest in Prestwick airport from the start, given that I used to live in Monkton and I joined the crowds in the football field across from my house to watch the inaugural flight of Concorde in 1969—that is how old I am.

I want to use my time to look at the airport’s income streams beyond flight operation; in particular I am interested in agreements with wind farm developers for mitigation payments. You will be aware of the findings of the reports on Clauchrie and Sanquhar. Having read the reports, it seems that the airport’s approach to negotiating mitigation settlements with wind farms has been challenged in several recent planning inquiries for such developments. From comments made by wind farm developers and reporters, it is reasonable to say that your approach is more aggressive than the norm. In particular, you have sought to receive on-going payments beyond an initial lump sum—you have sought to receive payments based on the number of megawatts generated. Most worryingly, you have taken an approach that uses non-disclosure agreements to conceal the value of payments and prevent public scrutiny. I am taking that straight from the report. Do you feel that that is an accurate description of the approach that you have taken to wind farms?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Glasgow Prestwick Airport

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Brian Whittle

The airport has a commercial interest and reports to the board—the Scottish Government, which is the shareholder.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Glasgow Prestwick Airport

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Brian Whittle

I am afraid that the evidence that I have taken from NATS disagrees with that. I understand that the Terma radar system is currently in the process of potentially being deployed. Having spoken to the wind farm operators, they are absolutely agreed that they have to pay some mitigation, but that has to be demonstrated by the airport, which they say has not been done.

The report also says that

“there is no basis to require ongoing compensatory payments to be made”

That is a quote directly from the cabinet secretary. The reporter also says that he is clear that a per megawatt basis for the calculation of any contribution would not be appropriate. I understand that there are more findings coming down the road, but those points are made in the reports on Clauchrie and Sanquhar.

What is important is that there is an agreement that the wind farms should provide mitigation and that there should be a capital expenditure payment for any upgrade or replacement of a radar system. However, the reports say that you have not quantified that and that you are trying to get on-going payments out of wind farms to pay for a radar system that is still not in operation even though the wind farms are up and the airport is still functioning. Again, I am saying to you that the mitigation is being used as an income stream. That is what the reports say.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Glasgow Prestwick Airport

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Brian Whittle

The wind farm operators to whom I have spoken absolutely accept that it is their responsibility to mitigate any impact on the airport, but the issue on which I did not get an answer from the airport, although I asked several times, was the idea that any money that comes in from a wind farm operator must be demonstrable and must be used to mitigate any impact on the radar. I got no answer to that, so I ask you, cabinet secretary, whether that is your understanding, and what you will do to ensure that the money that is raised from wind farm operators is used for the purpose of mitigating the impact.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Glasgow Prestwick Airport

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Brian Whittle

Do you accept, though, that mitigation from wind farms should not be seen as an income stream?

11:45  

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Glasgow Prestwick Airport

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Brian Whittle

Mr Forgie, I have twice asked a really simple question: is the money that is coming from the wind farms to mitigate any issue with radar being ring-fenced specifically to upgrade your radar? That is all that I am asking you.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Glasgow Prestwick Airport

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Brian Whittle

Sorry—the board reports to the shareholder, which is the Scottish Government. The board’s commercial interest is therefore your commercial interest.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Glasgow Prestwick Airport

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Brian Whittle

I am happy to do that. Again, I spent some time with NATS last week to understand exactly what is required from a radar system from its perspective. However, that is not just at Prestwick; it is a network of radar systems across Scotland.

10:15  

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Glasgow Prestwick Airport

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Brian Whittle

I would like to address one more issue. I heard that there was a runway report in 2019. I presume that you are aware of that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Glasgow Prestwick Airport

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Brian Whittle

I am pleased to hear the cabinet secretary take that approach, but it stands in contrast to what I heard earlier from the airport, to be frank.