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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 April 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Brian Whittle

Good morning, gentlemen. I have a couple of quick questions to get clarification, so that I understand exactly where we are. We understand that, at some point, you will no longer be importing and refining crude at the plant, but you will be importing refined fuel into the plant. What assessment have you made of the impact of that on the decarbonisation process?

Also, will you clarify how that potentially impacts on production of hydrogen and SAF at the plant?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Brian Whittle

You said that you have an offtake for the blue hydrogen that you produce at the plant. Is that a particularly promising area for development of the site? Looking down the line, do you have potential for much greater offtake of hydrogen?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Brian Whittle

Have you thought about moving to green hydrogen production? Do you have the capability to do that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Glasgow Prestwick Airport

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Brian Whittle

I will again ask you a simple question: are the revenues from the wind farms being ring-fenced for mitigation and not for any other measures?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Glasgow Prestwick Airport

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Brian Whittle

Just so you know, I spoke to NATS last week, specifically, so that I understood the issue. I have also spoken to wind farm developers. I know that there are other on-going public inquiries, but I am talking specifically about Clauchrie and Sanquhar, and these things are in the public domain. I will quote from the Sanquhar report, which said that the minister’s response agreed with the reporter’s conclusion that

“there is no basis to require ongoing compensatory payments to be made.”

My concern here is that you are using wind farm money specifically—[Interruption.] Do not shake your head, Mr. Forgie, that is what it says in the report. It says that you are using wind farms as an income stream. It also says you must show how you are using that money specifically to mitigate any demonstrable issues with wind farms. That is what the report says. Do you agree that, if that is the case, and those things are sitting in your ledger, they will have to come out, which will impact the profitability of the airport?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Glasgow Prestwick Airport

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Brian Whittle

Mr Forgie, it says it in the public inquiry report. You cannot disagree with the reporter and the minister.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Glasgow Prestwick Airport

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Brian Whittle

Can you demonstrate that everything that is coming out from the wind farm payments is being ring-fenced specifically to pay for an upgrade of radar?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Glasgow Prestwick Airport

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Brian Whittle

Good morning, cabinet secretary and Mr Cook.

I have had a big interest in Prestwick airport all my life, and I think that it is a phenomenal asset and has huge potential for the area. From my line of questioning earlier this morning, you will know that I am concerned about the relationship with wind farm operators, specifically around the public inquiry report that was recently published. I know that there are on-going public inquiries, which we cannot discuss, but it is about the approach to the mitigation of issues in relation to building wind farms around the airport and the required radar upgrade, specifically to the Terma radar. I intimated that I spoke to NATS last week, to look at what the actual requirement is, and I also spoke to some of the wind farm operators.

To cut to the chase, as was accepted by the previous panel, on-going mitigation payments from wind farms are now being seen as an income stream. The inquiry report says that

“there is no basis to require ongoing compensatory payments”;

that the way in which those are calculated by the airport—by a charge per megawatt—is “not appropriate”; and, finally, that the way in which non-disclosure agreements are used to prevent some of those arrangements from being made public goes against similar agreements between commercial parties and wind farm developers.

How aware of that are you? How much does it concern you? Thankfully, the airport is in profit but, if public inquiries continue to find in such a way—that payment should not be an income stream, because it is supposed to be specifically for mitigation of the impact on radar—that would impact on the profitability of the airport. How aware of that are you?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Glasgow Prestwick Airport

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Brian Whittle

When somebody applies to purchase the airport, you would do a report, which would include the runway report from 2019. Is that correct?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Glasgow Prestwick Airport

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Brian Whittle

So, you would not include a runway report as part of the purchase process.