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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 April 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 November 2024

Finlay Carson

Agenda item 2 is consideration of an affirmative Scottish statutory instrument. I welcome to the meeting Jim Fairlie, Minister for Agriculture and Connectivity, and the following Scottish Government officials: Brian Service, who is agricultural reform programme lead for cross-compliance; John Armour, who is branch head of the livestock production policy unit; and Lewis Kerr, who is a lawyer.

I invite the minister to make a short opening statement.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 November 2024

Finlay Carson

You are talking about a cow being barren or whatever for a year before being put into calving. The success of this measure, then, will be that, as soon as a cow is outwith the calving index, she will be culled. Have you done any work on whether that is actually practicable? Will you get every farm with a cow that looks like it will be outside the 410-day threshold to cull the animal? After all, if it is not removed, just taking the payment away will not reduce methane output. How will you ensure that the approach delivers, and that cows that are barren and, as you say, on the ground, potentially, for a further year without producing any beef get taken out of the system?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 November 2024

Finlay Carson

You have touched on quite an important topic. We have world-leading breeding stock in Scotland. Does this approach not penalise those who might be trying to improve their herd or the genetics, by disincentivising them from keeping a cow for that period? Are there any mitigating circumstances in which a high-value, pedigree cow that loses a calf in some of the circumstances that you have alluded to will not be penalised?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 November 2024

Finlay Carson

Minister, I will intervene, because a key issue for stakeholders was the need for a comprehensive and clear provision for force majeure issues, particularly in relation to herds that are affected by circumstances that are beyond their control. You have said three times that you will not go into those issues, but when force majeure would kick in was actually one of the main concerns, so it is obviously an important matter. Those concerns were raised during the summer, and we are now looking at approving an SSI that will come into force in January. Therefore, we now need that level of detail to give comfort to those farmers who might be affected by something that is outwith their control.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 November 2024

Finlay Carson

Finally on this topic, where are we with the computer system that will have to drive all this? Are we on the right route to get it up and running for the new payment systems? There were suggestions of IT issues. Are you happy with the IT system?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 November 2024

Finlay Carson

I have a question. We know that some pretty productive land sits adjacent to wetlands and peatlands. Will the GAEC standards restrict farmers’ ability to ensure that the land stays in production? Drains have to be maintained and activities carried out to ensure that productive land gives the returns that it has given in the past. Will the instrument in any way impact farmers’ ability to ensure that good land is kept in condition?

Who will make that assessment? Will someone from NatureScot come out to assess planned drainage work or land levelling? Where are the boundaries? How do we assess whether there will be an impact, significant or otherwise?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 November 2024

Finlay Carson

As members have no further questions, we will move to formal consideration of motion S6M-15262, on approval of the instrument. I invite the minister to move the motion.

Motion moved,

That the Rural Affairs and Islands Committee recommends that the Rural Support (Improvement) (Miscellaneous Amendment) (Scotland) Regulations 2024 [draft] be approved.—[Jim Fairlie]

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 20 November 2024

Finlay Carson

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the 29th meeting in 2024 of the Rural Affairs and Islands Committee. Before we begin, I ask those taking part to ensure that all their electronic devices are switched to silent, and I should say that Beatrice Wishart, Rhoda Grant and Emma Roddick are all participating remotely this morning.

Agenda item 1 is a decision on taking business in private. Does the committee agree to take items 4 and 5 in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 November 2024

Finlay Carson

Thank you very much, minister. The policies that we will make a decision on this morning are already in place, and what we are doing is, in effect, applying conditionality to deliver some of the outcomes that the Government wishes to see. How exactly will the new regulations on the SSBSS tackle climate change?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 November 2024

Finlay Carson

Where would you want that to get to, and how will you use what is effectively a stick approach to ensure that the industry reaches that target? We could suggest that the optimal situation is for a cow to have a calf once a year, so the index would be 365 days. If that is what you are aiming for, how long do you intend to take to get there?