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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 April 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Deer Working Group Report

Meeting date: 29 January 2025

Finlay Carson

We will be covering that in another section.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Deer Working Group Report

Meeting date: 29 January 2025

Finlay Carson

In our next theme, we will look specifically at the deer working group report.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Deer Working Group Report

Meeting date: 29 January 2025

Finlay Carson

We will continue our discussion of the deer working group’s report, and we will move on to the theme of the rural economy and the venison sector.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Deer Working Group Report

Meeting date: 29 January 2025

Finlay Carson

Thank you.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Deer Working Group Report

Meeting date: 29 January 2025

Finlay Carson

I am very conscious of the time, but I am also conscious that a number of people want to respond to some of the comments that have been made. Forgive me for jumping around a bit, but I think that Tom Turnbull wants to respond to a comment that Donald Fraser made, and then Tim Eagle has a supplementary question.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Deer Working Group Report

Meeting date: 29 January 2025

Finlay Carson

I thank the witnesses for their contributions. They will be pleased to hear that there is no doubt that we will see them around the table again in the not-too-distant future. The session has set out some of the groundwork that the committee will have to cover before the proposed natural environment bill is introduced.

11:41 Meeting continued in private until 11:49.  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Deer Working Group Report

Meeting date: 29 January 2025

Finlay Carson

Good morning. You are all most welcome.

I remind everyone that you do not need to operate your microphones yourselves. The operator over there is very good at seeing who wants to speak and will turn on your mic for you.

I will kick off with a broad question. What are your views on the impact of current deer densities in Scotland? Can you touch on the effects on the economy and on environmental issues?

When I was elected, my dear late friend Alex Fergusson told me that there were two things that I had to avoid as an MSP: deer management and land reform. I have managed to avoid land reform in this session of Parliament, but here we are dealing with deer again. It has always been one of the most important topics.

I open up the discussion to anyone who would like to kick off.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Deer Working Group Report

Meeting date: 29 January 2025

Finlay Carson

For what reason do you control deer numbers? What are you protecting?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Deer Working Group Report

Meeting date: 29 January 2025

Finlay Carson

The next item of business is a round-table discussion on the implementation of the deer working group’s recommendations. We are joined by nine stakeholders, and we have up to two hours for the discussion.

As we have quite a few participants, I ask everyone to be succinct in their questions and answers.?Please indicate to me or the clerk if you wish to participate at any point, but there is no expectation that everyone will speak on every point, especially if you feel that your point has already been made. Likewise, if you feel that a part of the discussion does not relate to your area of expertise, please do not feel that you need to participate at that moment.

We will begin by introducing ourselves. I am Finlay Carson, the convener of the committee and the MSP for Galloway and West Dumfries.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Deer Working Group Report

Meeting date: 29 January 2025

Finlay Carson

I have a question about that, which is perhaps for Donald Fraser. I remember dealing with deer management in a previous session of Parliament, with the Environment, Climate Change and Land Reform Committee. A very contentious issue was how we calculate deer densities—whether by looking at hoof prints or at deer or sheep droppings, and trying to distinguish between the two, or by using helicopters. Are we any further forward in relation to having a consensus around the method of calculating the density of deer or of sheep or other herbivores?