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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 April 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Inshore Fisheries Management Improvement Programme

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Finlay Carson

Does the fact that there have been 313 FOI requests not suggest that there is not enough transparency and that you are getting things wrong? If you continue in the same manner, the information that you publish will be wrong. It almost sounds as though you are blaming the directorate’s lack of capacity to make changes on people asking questions. We found that through our budget talks. The fact that you have received 313 FOI requests suggests that people believe that you are hiding stuff and not being transparent enough. Surely time would be better spent trying to give the public confidence that the information that they get is accurate and correct. Surely you should be addressing that. With all due respect, it sounds as though you are blaming the public for doing what they have every right to do, which is to hold the Government to account.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Inshore Fisheries Management Improvement Programme

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Finlay Carson

Thank you—that was helpful. On the back of the lobster and crab restrictions that were brought in last year and concerns that were expressed by the industry, the committee considered undertaking a piece of work to look at inshore fisheries. We are pleased, therefore, to see that the marine directorate will do what you are saying, but we are concerned that changes might not to be made or implemented as soon as we would like. Can you set out your expected timescales?

I understand that there is a 10-week period for the call for evidence, but what are we looking at after that? What are the timescales for completing the work and what will set the scope of what you can do after that work has been done? Of course, we should bear it in mind that, as is clear from the work that we did as part of our budget process, the resources and capacity of the marine directorate are not what they might have been in the past. Can you give us an indication of timescales and when the committee and stakeholders can expect the work to be reported on and, ultimately, the changes implemented?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Inshore Fisheries Management Improvement Programme

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Finlay Carson

What I am hearing is that the scope of the work is about being within the budget that you have at the moment instead of being about what is best for Scottish fisheries.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Inshore Fisheries Management Improvement Programme

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Finlay Carson

This is what I struggle with. A call for evidence is all very well. People could ask for brand new boats for nothing, or whatever, but, ultimately, surely the marine directorate’s job is to make sure that our fisheries policies are fit for the future, both economically and environmentally. We heard from Stuart Bell that you are ruling out certain aspects from our way forward, such as the approach of the regional inshore fisheries groups south of the border. You can get all the evidence in the world if you like, but surely, if you are already limiting your scope based on your budget, you will not actually be doing the job properly.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Inshore Fisheries Management Improvement Programme

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Finlay Carson

Thank you very much for your contributions this morning. That concludes our proceedings in public.

10:59 Meeting continued in private until 11:57.  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Inshore Fisheries Management Improvement Programme

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Finlay Carson

I will take a supplementary from Tim Eagle, then we will move on to a question from Emma Harper.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Inshore Fisheries Management Improvement Programme

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Finlay Carson

Grand. Thanks.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Inshore Fisheries Management Improvement Programme

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Finlay Carson

That blows of the water the whole session that we are having out. You are going out for consultation and calling for views, but you are already stating that you are ruling out anything that resembles an IFCA. It does not say in your consultation call for evidence that you will consider only X, Y and Z because of the resource capacity in the marine directorate. Are we all wasting our time here? Do you know the parameters that you are working within? Have you already ruled out some of the other operating models in your desktop exercise that we have heard about?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Inshore Fisheries Management Improvement Programme

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Finlay Carson

You just said that you had ruled out considering IFCA.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Inshore Fisheries Management Improvement Programme

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Finlay Carson

I have one question to finish with, which we have touched on throughout the session. In the work that you are doing, is the scope for change limited by the current financial settlement? The feeling that I get is that the scope of your work is constrained by the resource element that the marine directorate is receiving in the funding settlement. Is that correct? Are you working within the money that is allocated rather than designing a fishery that is fit for purpose and then seeking the budget to deliver it?