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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 30 June 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 19 December 2022

Rachael Hamilton

Victor, your mandate stresses the importance of respecting regional, cultural and religious values in human rights. How will the gender reform self-identification system impact everyone’s human rights across the UK?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 19 December 2022

Rachael Hamilton

Yes, Reem, we can hear you.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 19 December 2022

Rachael Hamilton

That is fine, thank you.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 19 December 2022

Rachael Hamilton

Welcome, Reem. You mentioned that you have concerns with age. Do you agree with lowering the age from 18 to 16?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 19 December 2022

Rachael Hamilton

Thank you, Reem. I totally respect what you just said.

In your letter, you advised the Scottish Government to pause the bill. However, given that we will be voting on the bill over the next two days, do you personally have confidence that MSPs who are not part of this committee and are not on this call will have time to adequately consider the evidence that you are giving today?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 19 December 2022

Rachael Hamilton

In your letter, you also raised concerns that the views of women’s groups and others who are critical of the bill had not been adequately considered in the bill process. Do you think that these last-minute committee sessions have done or will do anything to rectify that, particularly for the women whom you discuss, who feel that their protections are threatened by the potential for predatory men to access single-sex spaces, or have concerns around spaces becoming mixed sex and women then choosing to self-exclude?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 19 December 2022

Rachael Hamilton

No.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 19 December 2022

Rachael Hamilton

No—

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 19 December 2022

Rachael Hamilton

I want to pick up on one point that you made. Obviously, we want to ensure that there is a balance and that women’s rights, safety and privacy are protected, which was not addressed in your submission to the committee.

I want to ask you about the countries that currently have legal recognition of gender-based self-identification. Are there concrete examples that show that that has reduced the number of acts of violence against trans people?

I recognise that you are discussing here—[Interruption.] Did you understand the question? I am sorry about that.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 19 December 2022

Rachael Hamilton

Thank you, Victor, for coming to the committee this evening to give evidence. I want to speak to you about the intervention from your counterpart: the UN special rapporteur on violence against women and girls, Reem Alsalem. She said that her safeguarding fears were

“based on empirical evidence that ... the majority of sex offenders are male, and that persistent sex offenders will go to great lengths to gain access to those they wish to abuse.”

She is right, is she not? We are all aware of countless examples of the lengths that repeat sex offenders go to in order to access potential victims.

First, can you tell me why you think that the Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill as it stands will not be similarly abused by violent sex offenders if vital safeguards are removed? Secondly, if you say that that is a possibility, would you agree that a safeguard to prevent convicted sex offenders from applying for a gender recognition certificate is a reasonable and necessary measure?