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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 March 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority

Meeting date: 7 September 2022

Ross Greer

Yes.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority

Meeting date: 7 September 2022

Ross Greer

That is no problem. The mental health awareness award is excellent, so I am glad that that came up and is on the record.

The study guides that were produced this spring have been mentioned a number of times. I am sure that you are aware of young people’s criticisms of many of those guides. They felt that the advice was patronising. For example, the guide to the advanced higher modern studies paper encouraged young people to make sure that they answered the question that was asked in the exam and the guides to the higher physics and chemistry papers reminded them that it is always a good idea to spell words correctly. The guide to higher geography told them to read the question. Do you accept that some of the content of those study guides was patronising and was not of particularly high value to a 17-year-old?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority

Meeting date: 7 September 2022

Ross Greer

In that case, the issue here is an initial communication failure. Can I check how young people were involved in the development of the revision material? You have young people on the national qualifications group and you have a learner panel. How were they involved in the construction of the material? Did they at any point flag up that it was perhaps a bit patronising to say that it is a good idea to spell words correctly?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority

Meeting date: 7 September 2022

Ross Greer

I understand that, for example, the specifics of an exam paper obviously cannot be shared in advance, but there is nothing compromising about sharing in advance that the paper is going to encourage young people to spell words correctly.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority

Meeting date: 7 September 2022

Ross Greer

I will pursue that point about reflection. I have sat on the education committee for six years, and, five years ago, the committee produced a major report on the SQA under Fiona Robertson’s predecessor. A consistent point of criticism of the organisation has been that there is a perceived defensiveness around external feedback, advice, criticism and so on. We went through that when Cameron Garrett, who was the first member of the Scottish Youth Parliament on the national qualifications group, was critical of how young people were treated through that process. Sophie Reid, who succeeded him, is now being critical of a lack of communication and a breakdown of trust.

I am going to pre-empt your answer somewhat and presume that you will say that there has been improvement over recent years. However, if we accept that premise, why do you think that nobody else sees that improvement?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority

Meeting date: 7 September 2022

Ross Greer

Just—

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority

Meeting date: 7 September 2022

Ross Greer

I accept that some courses were modified more than others or were modified in significantly different ways. In hindsight, would it have been better if the study materials that you published in the spring had re-emphasised the modifications that had already been made to some courses, rather than publishing some guides that seemed, on the face of it, much thinner than others?

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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority

Meeting date: 7 September 2022

Ross Greer

I absolutely agree that some of the revision support was of really high quality. I think that it was the variation that caused a lot of frustration for young people who—

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority

Meeting date: 7 September 2022

Ross Greer

If you had shared that with them in advance, some concerns might have been raised.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority

Meeting date: 7 September 2022

Ross Greer

It is just a yes-or-no question, so, if there is time at the end, that would be ideal.