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Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 12 January 2022
Ross Greer
You mentioned a letter that was sent to unions in your name and that of Councillor Stephen McCabe. It was forwarded to me this morning by a union that I have been working with on this issue. The union welcomed the opportunity to give those examples because, as I understand it, there is a disconnect between the anecdotal evidence that we are all hearing and the specific issues being dealt with in a way that can resolve them.
As well as being sent to unions, will the offer in that letter be made openly to individual teachers and to teachers who are organising through groups other than their unions? I am aware that a lot of the issues around ventilation have been spearheaded by a grass-roots group of teachers who were featured on BBC and STV news in the past couple of days. I am sure that that group would be keen to contribute, although most of its members are union reps and, I am sure, will contribute through that avenue. Are we maximising the number of ways in which teachers and other school staff are able to flag up specific issues that, for whatever reason, are not being resolved at a school or local authority level?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 12 January 2022
Ross Greer
Around a dozen specific issues have been raised with me, and I am happy to ask those teachers whether they are happy to have them passed on to the working issues group. If they are, I should have those issues with you by the end of the week.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 12 January 2022
Ross Greer
Thanks very much for that.
I have probably taken up enough time, convener. I would be keen to come back in later, regarding the costs of Covid, but I am sure that other members will want to contribute before you come back to me.
10:15Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 12 January 2022
Ross Greer
I will stick with the previous line of questioning about teacher recruitment and numbers.
The £145 million that was announced as part of the budget, which the cabinet secretary mentioned in her opening statement, is the largest single increase for teacher recruitment since 2007. However, I want to drill down into the detail of that. Subsequent to the publication of the budget, that number was subject to some negotiation with the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities—as is normal, because local authorities will deploy the fund. My understanding is that that £145 million, as well as being broken down by 32 local authorities, is broken down into what are essentially five funding streams, which are listed as funding for teachers, primary teaching staff, secondary teaching staff, special schools and teacher pay.
Will the cabinet secretary, in the first instance, explain what the distinction is between funding for teachers and the three streams of primary, secondary and special schools? It appears that funding for teachers is the largest single amount. For example, Aberdeen City Council is first on the list and there is £2.6 million for it in funding for teachers, but there is then £800,000 for primary teaching staff, £900,000 for secondary teaching staff and £240,000 for special schools. What are those three additional columns for if they are separate from that stream of funding for teachers?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 12 January 2022
Ross Greer
I have a final question on the issue. You have just been in discussion with the convener about the Government’s commitment to reducing teacher contact time. What is the relationship between the additional funding for teacher recruitment and the objective of reducing class contact time and getting a more balanced workload for the existing teaching workforce?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 11 January 2022
Ross Greer
Yes, I think that we are a deeply asymmetric unitary state.
I will leave it there, convener.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 11 January 2022
Ross Greer
I will move on to my other question on borrowing—I direct it to David Phillips, as he mentioned this issue earlier in referring to the report that your institutions recently published on discretionary resource spending borrowing powers. The report recommended that the Scottish Government should be given some limited powers for discretionary borrowing, and said that the rationale for those powers being limited is an equity issue, as there is no England-only borrowing regime.
Can you expand a little on that rationale? The UK Government is de facto the English Government when it comes to areas such as health and local government, and it has an unfettered ability to borrow and spend in those areas if it wishes to do so. What is the rationale for granting the Scottish Government a discretionary borrowing power but having it limited for the purposes of equity within the union?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 11 January 2022
Ross Greer
Thank you—that is useful. The whole exercise is highly politicised, of course, but given those confines, the report is a relatively technical part of informing what will be a much more politicised review.
David Eiser mentioned forecast error borrowing. Before we get into a debate about how we decide on the limit for that—whether it should be a cash percentage or whatever—which I presume will come with the review, should we ask what the rationale is for having a limit on forecast error borrowing at all? It is less about a divergence in policy choice and more about correcting for a divergence in technical exercises; it is about correcting for error rather than for a divergence in choice. What purpose does a limit serve when the issue is simply to do with forecast error corrections?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 11 January 2022
Ross Greer
Thank you, convener. I have one question on the process, and then a couple on policy if we have time to get through them.
First, on the process itself, there has been a bit of confusion in the public discourse on the independent report and the review. I say “public discourse”; it is not as though a huge number of people have been engaging in this conversation beyond those of us who are participating in this meeting, but some have. Some folk are mixing up their terms when they reference the independent report rather than the review.
The report itself will not make recommendations. To an extent, it is simply an evidence-gathering exercise. I would be interested to hear the witnesses’ thoughts on exactly what they think the most desirable outcome is for the independent report. What purpose is it trying to serve, given that it is not its purpose to make recommendations?
I direct that to David Bell in the first instance.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 21 December 2021
Ross Greer
Is a breakdown of where the money is coming from available anywhere, or could it be provided to the committee?