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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 3 April 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 29 September 2021

Oliver Mundell

In 2020, you pushed for the algorithmic element to keep grades where they would have been expected to be. Do you think that that is important in the system—

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 29 September 2021

Oliver Mundell

You said that you have read the Education Scotland report, which I would have expected you to do. What did you do in practice when you read the line:

“Local authority officers expect staff to use these tools to review concordance data, including young people’s prior attainment, and identify and address any unexpected provisional grades.”?

That does not fit with what you are saying today. Did you read that report and think that something was going wrong?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 29 September 2021

Oliver Mundell

The report says “Most local authorities” and it specifies that that means that, I think, 70 to 90 per cent of local authorities used three to five years of historical data and that local authority officers expected staff to use that to identify and address unexpected grades. That does not fit with the picture that you have given. As the person responsible for the qualifications that are handed out, did you not have a problem with that at the time?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 29 September 2021

Oliver Mundell

First, I am talking about the first OECD report, which suggests that the SQA, or an equivalent body, should be merged with the curriculum body. In your experience, do you think that that would be a good move?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 29 September 2021

Oliver Mundell

However, do you think that the initial recommendation—to move the exam assessment part of our system in with the curriculum part—is right?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 29 September 2021

Oliver Mundell

What is your expectation? Do you expect grades to return to normal?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 29 September 2021

Oliver Mundell

I listened carefully to your first answer to Willie Rennie, in which you said that the past few years cannot be compared with any others but that you expect some change in grade outcomes. Therefore, if we go back to the old system for this year, do you expect grades and passes to fall?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 29 September 2021

Oliver Mundell

—there was the number of A grades that you would want to see in any qualifications system in order to get that differentiation.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 29 September 2021

Oliver Mundell

You said nothing publicly and you did not raise any concerns, despite the concerns that were being voiced in the Parliament. Were you happy to let the report from the Government’s other main education agency sit there in the public domain and give the impression to young people that data from their school might be used to identify and address unexpected grades? Were you happy to say nothing about it?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 29 September 2021

Oliver Mundell

I will return to the convener’s line of questioning but ask the question in a slightly different way. Are the OECD’s recommendations on assessment right? From your professional experience over the years and your experience at the SQA, are the changes that it identifies the ones that the Parliament should follow?