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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 18 March 2026
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government’s Approach to Financial Interventions: GFG Alliance

Meeting date: 25 February 2026

Jamie Greene

:Good morning. Let us just put all this into context. The Auditor General does not produce these reports just for the fun of it; he usually does so when there are valid concerns or a rationale for investigating such things.

We have always had an interest in the Scottish Government’s interactions with your business, and we are aware of issues including the Serious Fraud Office investigation, which has remained live over a number of years; the issues that you are facing in your other site in Scotland; some of the other insolvency and liquidation proceedings that other parts of the business are going through at the moment, including quite a substantial administration in Australia that requires huge Government support; various international legal and regulatory investigations, such as the one in Romania into embezzlement and fraud; and your failure to file accounts or appoint auditors in the UK. It is just a big, long catalogue of misgovernance and poor practices. Please tell me in which way GFG Alliance is a fit and proper organisation to do business with in Scotland.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government’s Approach to Financial Interventions: GFG Alliance

Meeting date: 25 February 2026

Jamie Greene

:I appreciate your frankness on that, but you can see that the optics around this are absolutely dreadful.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government’s Approach to Financial Interventions: GFG Alliance

Meeting date: 25 February 2026

Jamie Greene

:Particularly when the Scottish Government is exposing the taxpayer to risk on the guarantees. I appreciate the value of that risk has come down over the years—we have seen some statistics around that and have had Government officials in to update us on that. That is a welcome and positive direction of travel, although there is still a huge amount of uncertainty about how much revenue the Scottish Government and, therefore, the taxpayer is earning from the deal—that is entirely opaque, I have to say.

Given what you have said, it seems to be a group of companies that just makes really bad investment decisions. Why would you invest in a business that is uneconomic? You are not a charity, that is for sure.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government’s Approach to Financial Interventions: GFG Alliance

Meeting date: 25 February 2026

Jamie Greene

:On a more parochial point, without going into the commercial details of the deal that you made with the Scottish Government, I note that a public commitment was made to invest in the Lochaber site. I have seen various figures, including £70 million and £80 million. How much have you invested?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government’s Approach to Financial Interventions: GFG Alliance

Meeting date: 25 February 2026

Jamie Greene

:There are a lot of ifs. Five years ago, you promised that there would be 2,000 jobs—

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government’s Approach to Financial Interventions: GFG Alliance

Meeting date: 25 February 2026

Jamie Greene

:Someone must have made that claim.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Reports: “The 2024/25 audit of NHS Ayrshire and Arran” and “The 2024/25 audit of NHS Grampian”

Meeting date: 25 February 2026

Jamie Greene

Good morning. I will ask some other questions later in the evidence session, but I want to pick up on the point about brokerage and support funding. Will you describe the difference between the two? That is a question for anyone on the panel who feels comfortable answering it.

My understanding is that brokerage was essentially loans to the health board, and there was an expectation that, at some point, those loans would be paid back. You will have watched the previous evidence sessions, at which we heard that there is no expectation that you will ever be able to pay any of that money back. For example, in NHS Ayrshire and Arran, where will you find £130 million? Is it hidden away somewhere in your account?

What is the difference between what the Government was previously doing with the brokerage money to help you to break even versus what is happening with deficit support funding? I use that specific phrase because it was used earlier. What is deficit support funding? Is it a loan, or is it just an in-year cash injection with no expectation that you will need to pay it back?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Reports: “The 2024/25 audit of NHS Ayrshire and Arran” and “The 2024/25 audit of NHS Grampian”

Meeting date: 25 February 2026

Jamie Greene

:There is no requirement to pay the deficit support back, but it is agreed at the beginning of the year and it is predicated on you meeting your savings targets. Just to clarify, if you do not meet your savings targets, will you not get the deficit support?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Reports: “The 2024/25 audit of NHS Ayrshire and Arran” and “The 2024/25 audit of NHS Grampian”

Meeting date: 25 February 2026

Jamie Greene

:The 62-day wait for cancer treatment.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Reports: “The 2024/25 audit of NHS Ayrshire and Arran” and “The 2024/25 audit of NHS Grampian”

Meeting date: 25 February 2026

Jamie Greene

:That sounds very positive—those are helpful updates.

I will rephrase my earlier question. You will talk to Ms Lamb, the director general for health, and to the Government. The whole conversation this morning has been about saving money, which, essentially, means making cuts in some areas. You have a unique demographic and face a rise in demand—issues that are completely outside your control. Your service is having to cover an area of deep deprivation that has some of the lowest life expectancies and healthy life expectancies in the country and is in the top three deciles for poverty in Scotland. Given that situation, for which I have a lot of sympathy, why are the chair and the chief executive of NHS Ayrshire and Arran not saying to the Government that if it wants you to deliver good quality, cost-effective, fast public health services to our communities, you need more money? I have not heard that once in today’s conversation. If it were me, I would be knocking at the Government’s door, saying, “If you want us to meet your targets, we need more cash.”