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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 16 September 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Scottish Government Strategic Commercial Assets Division

Meeting date: 30 May 2024

Jamie Greene

Mr Cook, did you say that you attend board meetings at Ferguson Marine?

Public Audit Committee

Scottish Government Strategic Commercial Assets Division

Meeting date: 30 May 2024

Jamie Greene

Was he not the chairman of Prestwick airport?

Public Audit Committee

Scottish Government Strategic Commercial Assets Division

Meeting date: 30 May 2024

Jamie Greene

There clearly has to be an exit strategy for the businesses, and you have a whole department that considers nothing but benefit realisation. Is there any reluctance in your department to return the businesses to the private sector as going concerns? In effect, you are talking your department out of jobs. If all four of the businesses went into private ownership, there would be no SCAD and, presumably, 40 people would be doing something else in Government. Is there any conflict between what you are doing in keeping the businesses going and a definite strategy for getting out?

Public Audit Committee

Scottish Government Strategic Commercial Assets Division

Meeting date: 30 May 2024

Jamie Greene

Why has there been so much churn at the top of these organisations? Why are companies not able to hold down well-paid chief executives?

Public Audit Committee

Scottish Government Strategic Commercial Assets Division

Meeting date: 30 May 2024

Jamie Greene

How do you respond to accusations from the commercial sector in each of those markets that Government intervention is in some way distorting the commercial market? For example, with regard to Prestwick airport, Glasgow airport was very vocal about that accusation over the years.

Public Audit Committee

Scottish Government Strategic Commercial Assets Division

Meeting date: 30 May 2024

Jamie Greene

That is good to know.

What I have heard about Lochaber smelter is quite concerning, and I am sure that we all share that concern. My understanding is that the Scottish Government has committed to a 25-year guarantee. Audit Scotland has estimated the exposure to the public purse to be in the range of between £14 million and £32 million a year over the contract. What is your current estimate of exposure and how much public money has been invested in the business to date? If you do not have those numbers now, you can write to us with them.

Public Audit Committee

Scottish Government Strategic Commercial Assets Division

Meeting date: 30 May 2024

Jamie Greene

Who is the current chairman of the board?

Public Audit Committee

Scottish Government Strategic Commercial Assets Division

Meeting date: 30 May 2024

Jamie Greene

He failed to return that to the private sector. Do you have confidence that he can do it at Ferguson’s?

Public Audit Committee

Scottish Government Strategic Commercial Assets Division

Meeting date: 30 May 2024

Jamie Greene

Why do you think that, two weeks ago, David Tydeman, the former chief executive of Ferguson’s, told the media that he had absolutely no idea why he was sacked?

Public Audit Committee

Scottish Government Strategic Commercial Assets Division

Meeting date: 30 May 2024

Jamie Greene

Mr Irwin, I have a wider question—it is a bit of a chicken-and-egg question—about the fact that the business has obviously come to the Government to ask for support, for many of the reasons that you have outlined. Which of those decisions are made purely as good business decisions, and which are made as political and strategic decisions? Are you directed by ministers to make something work if they choose to invest in a failing business, or are you approaching ministers with opportunities and saying, “These are businesses that you could invest in as a Government”? Which way round is it?