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Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 17 September 2025
Jamie Greene
That makes a bit more sense—thank you. I will not press that matter.
You said something interesting in response to questions about HIE’s risk factor and how you budget for planning ahead. You said, I believe, that the Scottish Government had provided some cover. I presume that you mean financial cover. If so, how much? In other words, when would your subsidy levels run out, and would you need to draw down Scottish Government money? You also said that that has been removed. My question, logically, off the back of that, is what happens when the operating company asks for more money than you have budgeted for?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 17 September 2025
Jamie Greene
I appreciate that.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 17 September 2025
Jamie Greene
It sounds as though you undertook an interesting due diligence process. What is the shelf life of the funicular once it is fully remediated? When will you have to start thinking about replacement?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 17 September 2025
Jamie Greene
I will begin with a general question. The cycle 1 flood schemes were identified 10 years ago. There were 40 schemes in the plan, the cost of delivering which was estimated to be around £350 million at the time. You now estimate that cost to be around £1 billion, which is a lot of money. Is that your estimate of how much it would cost to deliver the 40 schemes if they were to be delivered in full today, or is that the amount that you understand that the Government has now allocated to their completion? It is a lot of money.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 17 September 2025
Jamie Greene
What about contractors? I cannot get my head around how such a large sum of money has not gone on building flood defences or supporting communities. That is my point.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 17 September 2025
Jamie Greene
Understood. I am not passing comment on the decision that was made; I simply want to understand the diligence process by which those decisions are made. I know for sure that, if I lived in a community that had been ravaged by a flood, and a defence scheme should have been there but was not, and I then discovered that the local council had diverted money to cover other shortfalls, I would not be an overly happy resident. I am sure that many people are not happy about that.
I point to exhibit 7 in your report, which is a table. It is clear that the Scottish Government is spending significant amounts of money on the issue of flooding, and that that has increased since 2017. In that year, the figure was £42 million, and councils also spent £42 million on the issue. In 2023-24, which is the last year in the table, that figure had increased to £60 million. However, the same graph shows that councils’ expenditure was nearer £80 million, so there is a delta of nearly £20 million there. How did that come about? Do you know whether that shortfall was made up or covered by councils dipping into other parts of their budgets to fund that difference?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 17 September 2025
Jamie Greene
Okay, that answers that question—thank you.
My next question is more general; perhaps it is more of an observation that you can respond to. My understanding is that HIE took over the funicular in 2018, using the subsidiary that is here today, but it only fully went into operation in 2025, so seven years passed, although I appreciate that the Covid years were in the middle of that and life was difficult for everyone. Nonetheless, my understanding is that construction was still taking place during the Covid years in many sectors. Why did it take seven years to get it up and running? I find it hard to believe that any other snow-based resort in Europe would have put up with seven years of non-activity.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 17 September 2025
Jamie Greene
Mr Gifford, I appreciate that our job is to look backwards, but let us look ahead and talk about some of the positives. Clearly, the issues that you face in the Cairngorms are shared right across Europe. I am sure that you speak to colleagues in the Pyrenees or the Spanish Sierra Nevada, whose resort periods have suffered a similar level of shrinkage due to increased climate challenges. For example, last January, the average temperature in parts of Andorra was 23°C, which is incredibly difficult for a ski resort to manage, for obvious reasons.
How are you underpinning the resort’s long-term future? What are you doing to meaningfully diversify and bring in people and revenue?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 17 September 2025
Jamie Greene
Do you offer local residents any discounts, and what are they?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 17 September 2025
Jamie Greene
We know of communities that have suffered terribly due to flooding and that are still waiting for Government support. We are talking about £30 million of sunk costs. That is a huge amount of money that could have gone some way towards supporting businesses and households that have really struggled in the past few years. What analysis has been done of where that money actually went? Who did it go to?