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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 27 April 2025
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Meeting of the Commission

Interests

Meeting date: 24 June 2024

Jamie Greene

I have no relevant interests to declare.

Meeting of the Commission

Audit Scotland Annual Report and Accounts for the Year to 31 March 2024

Meeting date: 24 June 2024

Jamie Greene

I understand. For clarity, there is a pension element to the proportionately higher increase for some of the senior directors and senior management, which accounts for that higher figure. Do you believe that the organisation acts as fairly and squarely as it can act across the board, with regard to pay rises?

Meeting of the Commission

Audit Scotland Annual Report and Accounts for the Year to 31 March 2024

Meeting date: 24 June 2024

Jamie Greene

Do you find that most of your staff come from other audit companies? Is there poaching between the public and private sectors in that regard, as we see in other areas of the public sector?

Meeting of the Commission

Audit Scotland Annual Report and Accounts for the Year to 31 March 2024

Meeting date: 24 June 2024

Jamie Greene

I presume that .you cover the costs of their training. You said that around half of those people stay in the business, but the other half presumably do not. What are the governance arrangements around the costs of training?

Meeting of the Commission

“Quality of public audit in Scotland: Annual report 2023/24”

Meeting date: 24 June 2024

Jamie Greene

Do you get the impression that the issue is that the organisations in question simply do not have the capacity, or that they do not take the issue seriously enough? In some sectors, the delays are quite stark. Given that a huge amount of public money goes into those bodies, that raises eyebrows, if nothing else.

Meeting of the Commission

Audit Scotland Annual Report and Accounts for the Year to 31 March 2024

Meeting date: 24 June 2024

Jamie Greene

In the interest of time, we may need to move on, as other members have questions.

Meeting of the Commission

“Quality of public audit in Scotland: Annual report 2023/24”

Meeting date: 24 June 2024

Jamie Greene

I want to pick up on a few issues that have come up, particularly the variation between in-house auditing and that done by external auditors. Do you have any statistical information that could allow us to compare performance or completion against targets, for example? That would give us a feel for whether external auditors are more on target than your internal teams, or not, as the case may be.

Meeting of the Commission

“Quality of public audit in Scotland: Annual report 2023/24”

Meeting date: 24 June 2024

Jamie Greene

I ask you to stick to the timeliness of completion, as I have some other questions about that.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2023”

Meeting date: 20 June 2024

Jamie Greene

Yes—I was called back at 2 in the morning. I have to say that all the people whom I spoke to were lovely. I am really grateful to every one of them: it was clear that they were all really overworked and were doing their best.

However, I think that you get the gist of my point. People end up in a vicious circle in which the only option is to present to A and E, and we all know the problems that A and E departments are facing.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2023”

Meeting date: 20 June 2024

Jamie Greene

I will move on, because there is a lot to cover.

We have to talk about delayed discharge. I know that this is not a political setting, but ministers have promised to eradicate delayed discharge. That is ambitious and probably not achievable. There are targets—official and unofficial—but the statistics do not seem to bear out that progress is being made on that.

That can be analysed in a number of ways, such as by using the average number of people per month who are waiting to be discharged or the number of days that are spent in hospital by people who are ready to be discharged. I will not go into all the numbers, but where are we at with delayed discharge in Scotland at the moment? Are we making any progress at all, or are things getting worse?