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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 27 December 2024
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Liam Kerr

The model in Norway is clearly very different, but we heard this morning that the Norwegian operators have a great deal of discretion over which vessels they run. Will you clarify your position in that regard given what the convener said earlier? How much flexibility and choice do you have in relation to the vessels that you run on particular routes? Do you just have to go with whatever CMAL or Transport Scotland provides for you?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Liam Kerr

I understand. Thank you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Liam Kerr

Robbie, is that your experience?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Liam Kerr

Out of interest, how long does that process take? When you submit a request, what is the window for it to be approved?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Liam Kerr

I understand—thank you. My final question is also to Robbie Drummond. Monica Lennon asked earlier about crew. Can you tell the committee which company employs the crew? Does CalMac—your company—employ the crew, or is it another company that does so?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Liam Kerr

I understand. So that the committee fully understands, Transport Scotland contracts with your CalMac, which then subcontracts to Caledonian MacBrayne Crewing (Guernsey) Ltd for the provision of crew. If that is right, does Caledonian MacBrayne Crewing (Guernsey) Ltd have any other clients?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Liam Kerr

But you did not ask that question during the process.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Liam Kerr

Good morning. I have a couple of questions. Harald, the four main private operators in Norway own or lease their vessels to fulfil the contract obligations that we have heard about. How do those ferry operators procure their ferries, and who decides the precise specifications—the size, the crew complements and so on—that will be procured and ultimately used?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Liam Kerr

You say that the 12-month extension follows consultation with various stakeholders and that—you have just said this—you hope that it will alleviate the burden. Has it been reported back from the consultation with stakeholders that the 12-month extension is welcome, that 12 months is the right amount of time and that it will ease the burden and the cost? What is the response from the consultation?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Liam Kerr

I want to pick up on the contractual relationships. I will put my question to Stuart Garrett first and then Robbie Drummond. There are obviously contractual relationships between your organisations, Transport Scotland and CMAL. Earlier, the committee heard from our Norwegian witnesses that, in their case, the contracting authority can change the contract. They described that as not bureaucratic and said that it is quite easy. They said, “We change the timetables every year and it is quite flexible.” That begs a question. Does the contractual nature of Serco NorthLink’s relationship with Transport Scotland and CMAL hinder your ability to provide service innovation or change, or do the contracts have in-built flexibility such that you can react quickly and effectively to changing customer demand?