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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 18 September 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Liam Kerr

Detective Chief Superintendent Higgins, you have heard Jim Smith and Gillian Walker mention drones. There are currently no-fly regulations around prisons in England and Wales, and the Prison Governors Association Scotland has called for similar legislation here. Do you take a view on whether that would be helpful and whether Scotland should go down that legislative route? If so, would that go some way towards addressing the issue?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Liam Kerr

That is very helpful. I am grateful to you all.

Criminal Justice Committee (Draft)

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 3 September 2025

Liam Kerr

I understand. Thank you.

I am going to move to Gillian Reilly for the next question, but, if anyone else wants to come in on it, please indicate and I will bring you in.

The committee has heard that the SPS is looking to move to a focused day model, with staffing concentrated on weekday daytime hours and most prisoners locked up in their cells between 5 and 8 in the evening. What do you think will be the impact of their being locked up during those times, particularly in terms of substance misuse? Are there any mitigation strategies that the SPS should be considering during evenings and weekends to ensure that those hours do not become peak times for substance misuse?

Criminal Justice Committee (Draft)

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 3 September 2025

Liam Kerr

Haydn Pasi, do you want to come in on this?

Criminal Justice Committee (Draft)

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 3 September 2025

Liam Kerr

Thank you. The 2020 Cochrane review referred to mutual aid and peer recovery networks and seemed to find them very positive. Would you mind talking about those? I think that you are suggesting that those should be more prevalent.

Criminal Justice Committee (Draft)

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 3 September 2025

Liam Kerr

Good morning, panel members. I go first to Marianna Marquardt. I suspect that Haydn Pasi, based on something that she said earlier, will want to follow up on it.

The committee has heard evidence of a link between substance use in prisons and mental health challenges. Your response to the call for views raises the lack of mental health services and also suggests that there is a

“lack of integration between substance use and mental health services in prison.”

Can you expand on that for the committee? In particular, what impact does inadequate provision have on prisoners and their families?

Criminal Justice Committee (Draft)

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 3 September 2025

Liam Kerr

I understand. Before I bring in Haydn Pasi, I will press you on something, Marianna. In your response to the call for views, you said

“that you can only have a drug worker or a mental health worker, not both.”

I found that quite interesting, and I think that the committee will as well. Will you explain how that operates in practice?

Criminal Justice Committee (Draft)

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 3 September 2025

Liam Kerr

I understand—I am grateful, thank you.

Criminal Justice Committee (Draft)

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 3 September 2025

Liam Kerr

Dr Connell, alcohol problems are a significant issue in prison. You referred to a 2011 report, but a report by Scottish Health Action on Alcohol Problems, “Alcohol (in)justice”, published in 2024, has broadly similar figures: 63 per cent of people in prison have alcohol use disorder and 31 per cent are dependent on it. For people who are in prison who have alcohol issues, are the impacts on their mental and physical health similar to those who are presenting with drug issues? If not, how are they different?

Criminal Justice Committee (Draft)

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 3 September 2025

Liam Kerr

You spoke about people using substances as a coping strategy. Earlier, we heard that there is relatively little opportunity for prisoners to access alcohol, but there might be opportunities for them to access to drugs. Is there any evidence to suggest that people with alcohol issues replace alcohol with drug use while they are in prison?