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Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 19 November 2025
Liam Kerr
Right. You said in response to Pauline McNeill that, at the point when it opens, it would be staffed with broadly the same people who are currently working at HMP Inverness. That will necessarily come with the training costs that you identified, but, if the prison has greater capacity, there will also need to be a recruitment exercise. All that will come with an extra cost, so has that figure been factored into the £40 million increase on last year that you require? If not, what is the extra figure that will be required to open the new prison?
12:00Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 19 November 2025
Liam Kerr
I understand.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 19 November 2025
Liam Kerr
I will press you on that. If you have been looking at the international evidence, what does the Government conclude regarding whether provisions such as those in the bill would reduce the amount of prostitution in Scotland and tackle demand?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 19 November 2025
Liam Kerr
Earlier, in response to Sharon Dowey, the minister expressed her concern that there was insufficient time to get the bill through, and she prayed in aid two other bills. This bill has 11 sections, one of which is the short title. The Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill, as drafted, had 72 sections plus schedules, and the Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill had 93 sections and three schedules. It is my view that the Government has form: if it wants to get something through, it will. I note that we will now sit in February—we will not take a February recess—to ensure proper scrutiny of all the legislation going through.
Will the minister clarify why she thinks that this bill cannot be properly dealt with over the next 18 weeks? If that is about consultation—as she has alluded to—who has not been consulted?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 19 November 2025
Liam Kerr
Good morning. I want to ask about the resource budget and will follow on from the convener’s questions. Your submission says that you are
“operating at 107% of total design capacity”.
As you said, that might even have been superseded. Last year, you needed in-year resource funding of £22.5 million to address the utilities, the pay policy and the other things that you mentioned. As precisely as you can, can you tell us what extra funding—the minimum figure—you need in the resource budget to run safely next year?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 19 November 2025
Liam Kerr
I understand.
On the capital side, HM Inspectorate of Prisons for Scotland has identified HMP Greenock, HMP Dumfries and HMP Perth as having “extremely old infrastructure”. Meanwhile, the replacement prisons—HMP Glasgow and HMP Highland—are delayed and over budget.
Can you update the committee on the current position on HMP Glasgow and HMP Highland? How much extra are you spending to maintain the older prisons at an appropriate level? What does the capital figure need to be to allow you and the staff to do the difficult job that we ask you to do?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 19 November 2025
Liam Kerr
Good morning, minister. According to the policy memorandum, the bill’s remit
“is to reduce the amount of prostitution in Scotland”.
It will do so, according to your letter of 23 June, by challenging men’s demand and tackling commercial sexual exploitation. As you will have seen, the committee has heard conflicting evidence on whether the bill’s provisions, and specifically the new offence in section 1, will achieve those aims. In particular, it has been suggested that the bill will not reduce demand. Based on the Government’s interrogation of evidence, especially international evidence, does the Government think that the bill’s core provisions will achieve those aims? If so, does the Government support the bill in principle?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 19 November 2025
Liam Kerr
Finally—if you can answer this—what is the figure that needs to be in the budget for you to do all the things that you need to do in the next year?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 19 November 2025
Liam Kerr
Thank you.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 19 November 2025
Liam Kerr
I understand.