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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 April 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25 (Tourism and Hospitality)

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Colin Smyth

That is a very interesting point. A business across from my office showed me its accounts. Its turnover was going like that, and profits were going like this, but business rates were also going like that. Sorry, you will not be able to show that in the Official Report—[Laughter.] For the record, I was making signs with my hands to show that turnover was rising and profit was going down but business rates were rising. There is clearly something wrong with the way in which we calculate them. I do not know whether Marc Crothall wants to add anything to that from around the sector.

You mentioned that you feel that there is a lack of respect from Government. The one chink of light in the budget may well have been a commitment to review how we calculate business rates for hospitality. Have you been contacted by the Government on that review? Do you know what the timescale is, given the urgency of the issue? You may want to come back on that one. Marc, is there anything that you want to add about other parts of the tourism sector?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Colin Smyth

Thank you for that, minister.

One of the challenges that the committee has had is in fully assessing the likely impact on jobs should the refinery close in spring 2025. It has been suggested that there will be a net loss of 400 direct jobs, but it is clear that the potential job losses will include indirect, supply chain jobs, particularly in the local area. Does the UK Government have clear figures for how many direct jobs and, crucially, indirect jobs are likely to be lost if the refinery closes in spring 2025?

10:15  

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Colin Smyth

Crucially, many of the opportunities that you talk about are in offshore wind, for example. You talked about Robert Gordon University in the north-east of Scotland. What is the UK Government able to do to ensure that those opportunities in the Grangemouth area exist for the workforce, particularly the supply chain workers in the local community? With the best will in the world, a transition should not be about workers having to leave their communities to find opportunities. We should be trying to create those opportunities in their local communities.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Colin Smyth

Good morning, minister. I want to follow up on the point about when the UK Government was first made aware of concerns about the future of the refinery. It has been suggested in recent days that, two years ago, the Scottish Government held talks with Petroineos in which the then Scottish Cabinet Secretary for Net Zero, Energy and Transport, Michael Matheson, was warned of the refinery’s potential closure because of the market pressures that the company faced. Is it therefore fair to say that the UK Government was aware two years ago of the potential closure of the refinery because of market pressures and the direction of travel that we are following for the energy transition?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Colin Smyth

It seems strange that, if we are trying to support the company and the community to transition, we do not really have a full grasp of the number of jobs that we need to support. Are you confident that the new opportunities in the energy sector will be available in time to allow the workforce—whatever the number of people in supply and direct jobs is—to transition to new opportunities in the Grangemouth area?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 10 January 2024

Colin Smyth

On the issue of skills, during the committee’s evidence taking, we heard criticism from the Just Transition Partnership that a skills passport has not been delivered despite its having been committed to in 2021. Why has progress towards delivering the skills passport stalled? When can workers expect to see it delivered?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 10 January 2024

Colin Smyth

Is the end of March a target for introducing a skills passport or simply for reporting back on the work?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 10 January 2024

Colin Smyth

Okay. In its evidence, Scottish Renewables pointed out that many workers in the sector have had to fund reskilling or upskilling out of their own pockets. Unite the union estimated that that had cost workers about £2,000. Skills Development Scotland stated that there is capacity in the skills development pipeline

“if we get the financial resource to apply to it”—[Official Report, Economy and Fair Work Committee, 15 November 2023; c.59.]

to support apprenticeships, for example. Is the Government doing enough to support workers to reskill, given the fact that they have to fund that themselves in many cases? What further action does the Government plan to take to support them?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 10 January 2024

Colin Smyth

Funding is crucial to this. Unite the union has pointed out that workers have had to pay £2,000 to reskill themselves. You mentioned Skills Development Scotland and apprenticeships, but we have seen that provision being reduced. I will again quote the evidence of SDS to the committee. It stated:

“for skills, we need more revenue resource for training activities.”—[Official Report, Economy and Fair Work Committee, 15 November 2023; c.69.]

The recent budget proposes a £4.1 million cut to the SDS budget, and the skills budget is being cut from £50.6 million to £36.9 million. We are also seeing cuts to colleges’ budgets. If we already have a problem whereby workers are effectively funding their reskilling themselves, and reductions are being made to funding, where do you see the funding coming from to support workers?

Kevin Stewart raised the point about the transition fund but, again, Skills Development Scotland told the committee—this is the point that Kevin made—that that is mainly capital, when it is revenue that is needed. I am curious about where the funding to tackle the issue will come from. What sort of proposal does the Government have?

10:15  

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Colin Smyth

I will follow up on some of those points. Given the direction of travel that we have had for some time and the policy decisions on net zero, the closure of the refinery will not come as a surprise to the Government. It was always likely to be the case. For clarity, when was the Government aware that the refinery was likely to close? I am not talking about the specific announcement on the timescale, which suggested that it will close in 2025.