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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 2 July 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Colin Smyth

Thank you, minister. You have already touched on an important point by asking whether we need the bill. No member of this committee is against community wealth building—many are passionate about it. However, is the bill ambitious enough? What will it deliver that could not be delivered via, for example, an agreement with the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities or ministerial direction to other public bodies? Why do we need legislation when those vehicles could have delivered clear direction to public bodies?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Colin Smyth

Okay. We may come back to that issue.

As members have no further questions, that brings us to the end of the evidence session. I thank the minister and all the officials for joining us. I will suspend the meeting briefly to allow a change of witnesses.

10:06 Meeting suspended.  

10:30 On resuming—  

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Colin Smyth

I am sure that we will come back to that very important point tomorrow with the company.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Colin Smyth

Gordon MacDonald, do you want to come back in with a supplementary question?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Colin Smyth

Minister, I have a question that you may be able to answer with your wider public sector reform hat on. The bill aims to empower local authorities to transform local economies through community wealth building. However, councils in Scotland still lack a general power of competence, which is something that councils in England were given by section 1 of the Localism Act 2011, which effectively gave them the ability to do anything unless it is prohibited by law. That seems to have helped cities such as Preston to pursue some innovative work on community wealth building.

Is there a concern that, without that general power of competence, councils might be hesitant to pursue some innovative approaches for fear of overstepping their legal responsibilities?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Colin Smyth

On that point, what consideration was given to creating a formal role for those anchor organisations when it comes to co-designing the action plan itself? You have highlighted the importance of those organisations, but should they not be co-designing the action plan with local authorities?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Colin Smyth

I will bring in Daniel Johnson. No pressure, Daniel, but we are looking for some plain speaking.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Colin Smyth

That would be helpful.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Colin Smyth

Kevin Stewart wishes to come in with a supplementary question.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Colin Smyth

One of the points that has been put to us is that the duty—I appreciate the point you make about the duty and the fact that there are mixed opinions on that—is not as much about trying to get local government to engage in the approach as it is about trying to get other bodies around the table. The bill will specify a list of organisations that need to be at the table. I appreciate that you have to be diplomatic, but has that been an issue for COSLA in the past, and do you welcome that?