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That new facility is not under threat?

Are you saying that you would have to reduce the staff who are involved in that?

At face value, the Wise Group is saying that things have got better. The matter does not seem to be as much of a problem as it was when the committee visited the group’s offices in May. I am not sure where we can go from here.

Throughcare is another issue. I do not have anything constructive to say about that.

Will the roll-out of the new custody units go ahead as planned?

I took entirely the wrong meaning from your use of the word, “rationalisation”. I apologise for that. As far as Barlinnie and future planning goes, would that be put on ice or would HMP Glasgow still go ahead?

Good morning. I want to ask about the impact on capital spending in the prison estate and how that could be impacted by a potential shortfall in funding. I was quite alarmed to see in your submission that considering immediate rationalisation of the women’s estate could be one of the measures that you must consider—I am not saying that you said that you would do that. Can you expand on that and also say what impact it would have on the replacement for Barlinnie and so on?

Good morning.

I would like a bit of clarification. As I understand it, you do not want a flat cash settlement, but negotiated pay rises will cause massive job reductions in the police force. In previous years, have pay awards always led to a big reduction in staff? Have the two always been related?

Yes—that was part of the reason for my question. I do not remember the situation being this critical in previous years.

I am sorry to interrupt. Is it a three-year or four-year contract?

Where does that information come from? Does it come from the officers?