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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 12 July 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Rona Mackay

I want to go back to Stuart Munro’s opening argument, which was really comprehensive and which I understood. Obviously, the committee has wrestled with the issue of not having evidence for changing jury size. Am I right in thinking that, with the removal of not proven, you would prefer us to move to the English system? Is that really what you are saying?

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Rona Mackay

That is quite encouraging, but I am sure that you understand the point that Sandy Brindley was making about agency being taken away from the victim if she is told, “Yes, you have to” or “No, you can’t”. That is traumatising in itself as, again, she is powerless.

It sounds like you understand that. An informed choice is exactly the point—it should be all about choice.

Does anybody else want to comment?

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Rona Mackay

Right. I think that the problem that we have been struggling with is the lack of evidence. You probably heard that the previous witnesses have concerns about a two-thirds majority. They think that that raises the bar for convictions, particularly in sexual offence cases, for which, as you know, the rate is very low at the moment. Is there anything to say in favour of the provisions in the bill and the proposed amendments?

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Rona Mackay

Thanks, convener. I will be brief, with a couple of wee follow-up questions.

Good morning. This is a really helpful session. I should say at the start that I am very much in favour of the sexual offences court. Have you had any sort of pushback from victims about the idea of such a court? Will they have the choice, unlikely as it might seem, to say that they do not want to be categorised in that way by using the court?

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Rona Mackay

Is there a danger of you overthinking all this?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Rona Mackay

Good morning, cabinet secretary. Last week, the Scottish Courts and Tribunals Service said that it is at the point of beginning to pilot a virtual domestic abuse court, but that it needs an agreement on funding. Will you provide a wee update on that? Obviously, women’s organisations and others welcome virtual courts.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Rona Mackay

That is helpful. The Lord Advocate’s references to the court of appeal on corroboration in relation to sexual offences could result in a greater number of cases being prosecuted. Is the Scottish Government thinking about the budgetary implications of that? Will that be factored into the budget proposals?

Criminal Justice Committee

Scottish Biometrics Commissioner Annual Report 2023-24

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Rona Mackay

Good morning, commissioner. From your opening statement, it sounds like you have made great progress. I am really pleased about the children and vulnerable people initiatives that you have worked on with Police Scotland. That is a really positive move.

I want to ask you about Police Scotland’s plans to bring in facial recognition and how that would impact on your role. It has been talked about for some time, and concerns have been raised about accuracy. Will you talk me through that?

Criminal Justice Committee

Scottish Biometrics Commissioner Annual Report 2023-24

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Rona Mackay

That is really helpful.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Rona Mackay

I am flagging the possibility that that might require extra budget. It is a case of shifting sands; it is all in the mix.