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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 7 November 2025
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Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Rona Mackay

That is interesting. Thank you.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Rona Mackay

Fergus Colquhoun spoke about litigation being more possible in certain circumstances.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Rona Mackay

Yes, because we all like to have something to look at when we have made an agreement, I guess.

I get the impression from what has been said on that particular aspect of giving notice that it could create more litigious tenants. Does it give them the opportunity to say, “That’s not right, and I am going to take it further”? As the bill stands, could that happen?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 24 April 2025

Rona Mackay

The situation would be different in the Scottish Parliament, which is much smaller.

I am coming to the end of my second session in the Parliament, so, at the risk of sounding a bit creepy, I want to say that the back-up from the committee clerks and research teams has been exemplary. We could not have asked for more, and I think that everyone feels like that. We have fantastic committee back-up.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 24 April 2025

Rona Mackay

To be honest, it could not really be any other way—we have to be realistic about that.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 24 April 2025

Rona Mackay

It is really interesting to hear how everything operates.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 24 April 2025

Rona Mackay

It was in 2016.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 24 April 2025

Rona Mackay

When was the change introduced?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 24 April 2025

Rona Mackay

Good morning, panel. I will probably be the last questioner, so I will just leave you with a few take-aways from what we have been discussing. We have 129 MSPs in the Parliament. I am the chief whip of the party that is in government, and all my members are on two or three committees, as we have talked about. They are populated through the d’Hondt system, which means that, as the convener has just referenced, the largest party gets the most committee members, so I work with 36 back benchers on 16 committees.

I do not agree with my colleague Sue Webber. I think that we do need more MSPs, because our workload is increasing, which is, thankfully, due to increased powers and so on. Nearly all our committees have a full legislative agenda, which leaves very little time for inquiries, scrutiny or things that we should be doing and would like to do but simply do not have the time or people to do. I am totally in favour of gender balance, and I am on the gender-sensitive advisory panel, but you can only work with the members that you have. At the moment, we have quite a good gender balance across the Parliament. It might not be like that in the next session, and the points that we have just been talking about will be really important right at the start, when we will need to look at the practicalities.

As chief whip, I allocate places on committees, and I try to ensure gender balance where I can, but that is not always possible. Sometimes, the logistics do not add up for you to do exactly what you would want to. Stephen Holden Bates raised the issue of substitute members, which are really necessary in this Parliament because we have such a big legislative workload, and bills go to committees at stage 2. If someone is off ill, as happens in every workplace, we have to have somebody who can step in.

That is just a wee synopsis of what we have been talking about. My questions relate to the role of conveners, the move to having elected conveners, how that is working in other legislatures and the remuneration aspect. Diana, what has been the impact of the introduction of elections and remuneration for committee chairs in the Senedd, and how has it affected the role?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 24 April 2025

Rona Mackay

I am conscious of the time, so I will wrap up with some final questions. Do elections and remuneration for conveners have to go together? Could we have elected conveners without remuneration? Would elected conveners introduce a more political dynamic? How would elected conveners work with the general running of committees?