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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 31 March 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Rona Mackay

Oh, right—we are on to media. Okay. First, on the point about committee cohesion, I will just give a shout out for the Criminal Justice Committee. We are currently putting through two huge pieces of legislation—the Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill and the Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill—and I would say that we are acting as a team. Those bills are hugely important and we want to make good legislation. We are putting party politics aside and are all working together. I wish that more committees did that. I just wanted to make that point, and I agree with you about committee cohesion, too.

As you are a former journalist, Brian, I am dying to ask you questions. We know how things have changed in the media. How has social media changed the landscape with regard to how and what you report?

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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Rona Mackay

I would just like to go back to the decisions to release prisoners and, specifically, amendment 251.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Rona Mackay

I completely agree with what Sharon says—you laid out the situation well. We know what the situation is, however, so I am not sure that the amendment is necessary. You have stated the effects of not having floating trial diets as well as the harm that they do, and the courts are aware of that, so I do not think that the amendment is necessary.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Rona Mackay

You have not spoken to it?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Rona Mackay

I thought that I had missed it. There is an important point that I want to make about it. I apologise.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Rona Mackay

Will the member give way?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Rona Mackay

I understand that, but I think that your amendment runs the risk of having a bearing on a decision. Because it is there, it might sway a decision when it comes to someone who cannot articulate this sort of thing for themselves. That is my concern.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Rona Mackay

I have huge sympathy for and agree with the intention behind the amendments, particularly with regard to witnesses’ safety and that of their families. However, my concern on the remorse element is whether you have taken into consideration people with communication difficulties or those who might be neurodivergent and struggle to show remorse. Their behaviour in prison might have been exemplary, but they just cannot get that remorse over to the Parole Board. The converse is true for some prisoners who can articulate remorse but who maybe have not shown a great deal of progress in prison. A high number of prisoners will be in that category, so it is important that that is taken into consideration.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Rona Mackay

I totally agree with the sentiment behind the amendment, but I think that you used the phrase “where practically possible” in your speech. Have you done any research into how practical this would be, given the pressure on courts and court staff?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Rona Mackay

Convener, is it okay if I go on to part 5?