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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 23 March 2026
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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

Rona Mackay

I will be brief. I want to clarify something that John McKenzie said earlier, which is that roughly 150 jobs would be lost per year. You set out your position on compulsory redundancies, John, which I appreciate. For the job losses that you are talking about, would that be through retirement, voluntary redundancies, or people leaving?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

Rona Mackay

They are not being replaced.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

Rona Mackay

I thought that that was what it was; I just wanted to clarify what you meant.

My other question follows on from my colleagues’ questions. In the capital budget, you are £10 million short of the minimum that you asked for. Am I right in saying that you asked for £60 million but that you got £50 million?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

Rona Mackay

At the end of the day, you will need to have a priority list and say, “Okay, what can we actually implement here?” Is that the way that you will approach the budget?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

Rona Mackay

Would those measures be mainly short term or about looking towards the future? Or would it be a mix of both?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Rona Mackay

On your point about retaliation, Shakti Women’s Aid brought up the issue that a woman who retaliated in self-defence could end up on the register. How would you respond to that?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Rona Mackay

Do you think that it is appropriate to say that we should give it a chance?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Rona Mackay

No—that is what you said 10 minutes ago.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Rona Mackay

You said those words.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Rona Mackay

Yes, I will quickly ask about that. The minister told us that there are opportunities to progress aspects that would come under part 3 of the bill by using non-legislative measures and that the domestic abuse justice partners round table has been carrying out

“a data-mapping exercise, including identifying ... gaps and ... opportunities ... for improvement.”—[Official Report, Criminal Justice Committee, 17 December 2025; c 10.]

What is your response to that? What would the provisions in your bill achieve that non-legislative means would not?