The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.
The Official Report search offers lots of different ways to find the information you’re looking for. The search is used as a professional tool by researchers and third-party organisations. It is also used by members of the public who may have less parliamentary awareness. This means it needs to provide the ability to run complex searches, and the ability to browse reports or perform a simple keyword search.
The web version of the Official Report has three different views:
Depending on the kind of search you want to do, one of these views will be the best option. The default view is to show the report for each meeting of Parliament or a committee. For a simple keyword search, the results will be shown by item of business.
When you choose to search by a particular MSP, the results returned will show each spoken contribution in Parliament or a committee, ordered by date with the most recent contributions first. This will usually return a lot of results, but you can refine your search by keyword, date and/or by meeting (committee or Chamber business).
We’ve chosen to display the entirety of each MSP’s contribution in the search results. This is intended to reduce the number of times that users need to click into an actual report to get the information that they’re looking for, but in some cases it can lead to very short contributions (“Yes.”) or very long ones (Ministerial statements, for example.) We’ll keep this under review and get feedback from users on whether this approach best meets their needs.
There are two types of keyword search:
If you select an MSP’s name from the dropdown menu, and add a phrase in quotation marks to the keyword field, then the search will return only examples of when the MSP said those exact words. You can further refine this search by adding a date range or selecting a particular committee or Meeting of the Parliament.
It’s also possible to run basic Boolean searches. For example:
There are two ways of searching by date.
You can either use the Start date and End date options to run a search across a particular date range. For example, you may know that a particular subject was discussed at some point in the last few weeks and choose a date range to reflect that.
Alternatively, you can use one of the pre-defined date ranges under “Select a time period”. These are:
If you search by an individual session, the list of MSPs and committees will automatically update to show only the MSPs and committees which were current during that session. For example, if you select Session 1 you will be show a list of MSPs and committees from Session 1.
If you add a custom date range which crosses more than one session of Parliament, the lists of MSPs and committees will update to show the information that was current at that time.
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Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 7 June 2022
Kate Forbes
I am actually talking about private investment. At the 26th United Nations climate change conference of the parties—COP26—the Glasgow Financial Alliance for Net Zero told us that there are $130 trillion-worth of assets under management right now that are looking for a home in significant infrastructure projects and other things to help with the transition. I am talking about the substantial sums of private sector funding that are available.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 7 June 2022
Kate Forbes
Indeed—the basics of a budget or a resource spending review. I do not know how else to explain the absolute basics of Scottish Government budgets or resource spending reviews: I must balance; I can only spend to the penny what I am forecast to either raise or receive. In a resource spending review or a budget, I cannot have a position whereby I am overspending. That is why querying the Scottish Fiscal Commission’s assumptions is so important. The SFC starts with assumptions, it provides us with forecasts, and I can spend only what it enables me to spend.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 7 June 2022
Kate Forbes
No, I do not.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 7 June 2022
Kate Forbes
We will update all tax policy in advance of every budget. I will not be drawn today on setting tax plans for subsequent budgets.
Obviously, the SFC has to work on the basis of assumptions. The intention here was certainly not to determine tax policy for future years.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 7 June 2022
Kate Forbes
Over the next four years—it is important that it is understood that this is over the longer term and not over a one-year period—we will see a reduction in workforce and in head count to pre-pandemic levels.
There are number of ways to do that, including through effective vacancy and recruitment management or redeploying staff. All that has to be done in collaboration and through discussion with trade unions. That is important. We have a policy of no compulsory redundancies, and we will update public sector pay policy in advance of every budget. The key with a resource spending review is that we are not trying to drive reform over the space of 12 months; we are trying to drive reform over the space of four years, so by 2026-27, we want to the total size of the devolved public sector workforce to be at pre-Covid levels.
12:45In relation to the health workforce, a lot of people already work in care, so we have to take that into account for a national care service, which is an example that I used earlier. It is about effective management across the board, rather than setting arbitrary targets over a very short period of time.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 7 June 2022
Kate Forbes
Some of that civil service reduction will be in the health service. I am not disputing the sentiment behind your question, which is that I have said that we need to reset the size of the workforce, we will freeze the pay bill and, ultimately, we want to return to pre-Covid levels. The public sector is large; it is approximately 470,000 people in FTE terms, and we need that to return to pre-pandemic levels. That will need to be managed across the board. That is where my concern is with your arbitrary figures, including the 15,000 in the health service. That is putting arbitrary figures on the other side of that argument.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 7 June 2022
Kate Forbes
I actually think that prioritising employability and training in the finance and economy portfolio is the right call. However, if spending in one area goes up, the same increase cannot be maintained across the board.
What we require is a flexible training offer. Universities and colleges have an important role to play in that respect, and they have to adapt and be cognisant of future skills demand. With employability training, which, as I have said, is one of the very few budget lines that is going up significantly, we are endeavouring to provide a more flexible retaining and reskilling offer to individuals who need to retrain and reskill.
That said, I go back to my starting position: the outlook is very difficult, given the funding that we have available. I imagine that around this room and across the chamber there will be different asks in terms of where I should be spending more. Indeed, I have already heard some of them today with regard to local government, universities and employability.
If I could spend significantly more on every budget line, I would—of course, every finance secretary would want to do that—but I cannot as I am constrained by a funding envelope, and I have sought to be fair across the board. It is even more challenging because our spending powers have decreased as a result of inflation, which you cannot get away from. What you are counting as real terms cuts is higher because I have less spending power as a result of inflation. We have tried to protect spend, but if you want any line to go up, I am afraid that on the resource spending review—which is different from a budget—I do not really have anywhere to go.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 7 June 2022
Kate Forbes
Gary Gillespie might want to come in on earnings more generally, but I will go back to my fundamental point: I cannot overspend by a penny; I can only spend what the SFC thinks it is reasonable for me to receive. Therefore, if you want any part of that resource spending review to increase, that has to come from elsewhere in the pot, because my spending and funding assumptions must be based on as much fact as possible—which they are.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 7 June 2022
Kate Forbes
Much of that goes back to the core objectives that I set out, such as tackling child poverty. Much of the spend for that is in the social security line, as members will see, but there is also much of it in the education line, which covers, for example, the roll-out of free school meals and early learning and childcare expansion.
We have tried to ensure that the trajectory of spend in each portfolio matches the plans for the roll-out or expansion of particular initiatives. Someone else might want to come in on the breakdown by year, but that has been our starting position. We have tried to match the funding to the commitments that have been made which are specifically tied in with core objectives.
There is another element to that. The trajectory is quite bumpy over the next few years because of the impact of reconciliations that need to be accommodated. For example, there are larger reconciliations in certain years than there are in others, and that eats into spending power, because there is a limit on borrowing of only £300 million to manage some of those reconciliations. You have to use your core spending power to make up the difference, as it were.
We have also tried to smooth the trajectories so that, for example, we do not have a portfolio that has to deal with a rapid and sudden drop in one year, only to have a climb up in the following year, because that involves employees, or workers. You cannot expect a portfolio such as education to see a drop. Therefore, we have tried to smooth the trajectory over the period across portfolios.
I hope that that answers the macro question as well as the particular question. I do not know whether anyone else wants to add anything.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 7 June 2022
Kate Forbes
If we get it right, it will have a huge and hugely positive impact. The resource spending review covers the period that is just short of half way to the national strategy for economic transformation outcomes, which we aim to deliver over 10 years. If we get that right and invest our funding in achieving outcomes and objectives, rather than in maintaining the status quo, we can shift the dial on those things. If we just defend the status quo, we will get the same outcomes, but I think that all of us have an aspiration and ambition to actually deliver what the resource spending review sets out in relation to economic growth, resilient public services and tackling child poverty.