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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 April 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Clare Haughey

I refer to my entry in the register of members’ interests. I have a bank nurse contract with NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde, and I commissioned the Scott review when I was Minister for Mental Health.

I want to ask about learning disabilities. We know that learning disabilities are on a very broad spectrum, but we also know that many people with learning disabilities die a lot younger than the general population, and often of illnesses that would perhaps have been picked up earlier in other adults. Learning disabilities are one of the exclusions in the bill, so I am keen to hear, particularly from you, Professor McKay, because you raised the issue of capacity as opposed to diagnosis, what you think about that and how that could be addressed.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Clare Haughey

Good morning and welcome to our 31st meeting in 2024 of the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee. I have received no apologies for the meeting.

We will continue our scrutiny of the Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill at stage 1, so, under rule 12.2.3(a), Liam McArthur is attending the meeting as the member in charge of the bill. Welcome, Liam.

The first item on our agenda is to decide whether to take agenda item 4 in private and whether members agree to take equivalent items on future agendas in private. Are we agreed?

Members indicated agreement.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Clare Haughey

Following on from Mr Sweeney’s questions, I note that, under the bill as introduced, the two doctors that sign off capacity could be two foundation year 2 doctors. In your opinion, would they have the level of training and expertise to be able to do that?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Clare Haughey

I thank our witnesses for their attendance; you have been very helpful to the committee in our on-going scrutiny of the bill. Please feel free to leave while the committee’s work continues.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Clare Haughey

The next item on our agenda is consideration of a negative instrument. The purpose of the instrument is to amend the regulations on the NHS superannuation and pension schemes in Scotland. The instrument introduces legislative changes to the schemes, including retirement flexibilities, amendments to abatement rules and final pay controls, changes to the 2015 regulations regarding inflation and other miscellaneous amendments. The policy note states that

“the instrument also introduces a new employer contribution rate from 1 April 2024 and reforms the employee contribution rates in the NHSPS(S) in two phases from 1 October 2023 and 1 October 2024.”

The Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee considered the instrument at its meeting on 5 November 2024 and made no recommendations in relation to it. No motion to annul has been received. I know that Sandesh Gulhane wishes to make some comments. Before I pass over to him, I put it on record that I am a contributor to an NHS superannuation and pension scheme.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Clare Haughey

Thank you, Mr Gulhane. I take it that by “some staff” you are referring to medical staff?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Clare Haughey

I am mindful of the time, so I ask members and panel members to be concise with their questions and answers, please.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Clare Haughey

I see no objection to the committee writing to ministers and asking for relevant clarification on some of those issues. Are you content with that?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Clare Haughey

Thank you.

At our next meeting, on Tuesday 19 November, we will continue taking oral evidence as part of the committee’s stage 1 scrutiny of the Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill. That concludes the public part of our meeting.

11:44 Meeting continued in private until 11:57.  

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Clare Haughey

The next item on our agenda is evidence from two panels on the Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill at stage 1. We begin our scrutiny by taking evidence from stakeholders who focus on the legal, human rights and equalities considerations that are related to the bill.

I welcome to the committee Dr Mary Neal, reader in law at the University of Strathclyde; Eleanor Deeming, legal officer at the Scottish Human Rights Commission; and Lynda Towers, a public policy committee member at the Law Society of Scotland. We are expecting Dr Murray Earle, lecturer in medical law at the University of Edinburgh. I note that Dr Neal has made a request not to be filmed as part of this morning’s proceedings and that the committee has agreed to her request.

We move straight to questions from Emma Harper.