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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 April 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Clare Haughey

I thank Mr MacArthur for his extensive evidence. I know that it has taken quite a substantial amount of time—more than we had anticipated—but the committee has certainly been able to ask the questions that were presented as a result of previous evidence.

I thank you and your witnesses, Mr McArthur. That concludes the public part of today’s meeting.

12:41 Meeting continued in private until 13:05.  

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Clare Haughey

I call Brian Whittle.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Clare Haughey

Joe FitzPatrick has a supplementary question.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Clare Haughey

I have a couple of questions in relation to court involvement. The bill before the UK Parliament makes provision for all assisted dying applications to be considered by the High Court for England and Wales. Court involvement was seen as an additional protection by some of the respondents to this committee’s call for views. Was that something that you considered?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Clare Haughey

I have a point for clarification. I asked the cabinet secretary to clarify this last week, when he spoke about figures of just over £6 million on the basis of training 50 per cent of doctors, taking into account those who might wish to opt out of the scheme. Your figures are based purely on medical staff. They do not take into account pharmacy or nursing staff or any other allied health professional.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Clare Haughey

The status of assisted dying as a reasonable treatment option in Scotland is unclear and there have been calls for that to be addressed directly in the bill. If assisted dying is considered to be a reasonable treatment option, doctors would have a duty to discuss it with patients in appropriate situations, regardless of any conscientious objection to the practice that they might have. How do you respond to that?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 January 2025

Clare Haughey

I want to go back to the financial memorandum on a point of clarity. The Government has looked at training time and costs in comparison with Mr McArthur’s financial memorandum, and your response to Emma Harper’s question was that you anticipate that, if the bill were passed, some pre-registration training would replace the training that would initially be needed as the bill was coming in. Would there be any scope to factor in costings for updates? What you learn pre-reg does not necessarily translate to something that you are doing in clinical practice five, 10 or 15 years down the line.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 January 2025

Clare Haughey

I have no indication of any more questions from the committee. I thank the cabinet secretary and his officials for their attendance.

Next week, the committee will conclude its programme of oral evidence as part of its stage 1 scrutiny of the Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill by taking evidence from the member in charge of the bill.

That concludes the public part of our meeting.

10:44 Meeting continued in private until 11:08.  

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 January 2025

Clare Haughey

My final question is about section 17 of the bill, which would require that the terminal illness involved is recorded as the cause of death on the death certificate, as opposed to the administration of an approved substance that is associated with assisted dying. Is the Government perhaps looking with National Records of Scotland at how that might be recorded on a death certificate, given that that would deviate quite markedly from current practice, as we heard from earlier witnesses?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 January 2025

Clare Haughey

I have some final questions, cabinet secretary. Again, there might be issues that you cannot comment on.