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Thank you, Gordon. That was for lay people so that they are aware of what you are talking about.

I think that Gordon Jamieson wanted to come in on the previous question.

The next theme is culture and governance, on which Gillian Mackay has some questions.

I invite David Torrance to continue with the theme of communication and information.

I am aware of the recent appointment of the women’s health champion. I absolutely appreciate why menopause, heart disease in women and endometriosis have been prioritised within her role, as those are very important areas that the Scottish Government is working on. However, I am keen to hear how you see the women’s health champion’s role in promoting good pelvic health, if I can put it that way, when it comes to the education that Evelyn Tweed spoke about. I am also keen to hear about the Government’s plans for reviewing the incontinence strategy.

That would be really helpful, given that we want to move to a preventative strategy as opposed to treatment and to give women and girls the information that they need about looking after the pelvic floor. That is important for the committee to hear about.

We will move to the next theme, with Carol Mochan.

We move to questions from Sandesh Gulhane.

Tess White has a supplementary question.

The committee has heard evidence on the curriculum and framework that the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists has published for specialist training in mesh complications, and I am keen to hear about the clinicians who have been through that training. Can you give us any numbers? Have all the surgeons involved in mesh removal in Scotland been through that training?