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I have a final question. When I was in Shetland a few years ago, one of the ambitions of the people there was to grow their own workforce, so that people were already embedded in those communities and, if they left to go to university on the mainland, they were more likely to return. I am keen to hear whether that has developed, whether you have had any success with it and what the challenges have been. I go to Gordon Jamieson first, as his hand is up.

I am sorry, but Emma Harper wants to ask a brief supplementary question that might tie in with what has been said.

Evelyn Tweed has a supplementary question on that.

Emma Harper has a supplementary question.

The second item on the agenda is a further session in our periodic scrutiny of front-line national health service boards. I welcome to the meeting Michael Dickson, chief executive of NHS Shetland; Gordon Jamieson, chief executive of NHS Eileanan Siar, who is joining us remotely; and Laura Skaife-Knight, chief executive of NHS Orkney. I welcome everyone on the panel and thank them for joining us.

We will move straight to questions.

I know from my time as a health minister that island boards frequently raised the challenge and associated cost of recruiting and retaining staff on the islands. How have your health boards met that challenge and what other challenges do you still face? Who wants to start off on that?

Good morning, and welcome to the 18th meeting in 2023 of the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee. I have received apologies from Paul Sweeney.

The first item on the agenda is to decide whether to take agenda items 4 and 5 in private. Do members agree to do so?

Members indicated agreement.

Thanks, Michael.

I am looking at the performance tables that all three health boards have submitted to us. We did not get any figures from NHS Orkney on the percentages of CAMHS patients who are seen within 18 weeks or 53 weeks or more. Could you write to us with those figures?

Thank you. We are going to move on to our final theme, which is future work.

We move to our final theme of looking to the future.