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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 April 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 January 2025

Jenny Gilruth

That is a rather broad question, convener. Of course, child poverty is not—

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 January 2025

Jenny Gilruth

You have to be mindful of the context in which we exist.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 January 2025

Jenny Gilruth

I should also have mentioned the early adopter communities, which will help to inform some of the evaluation that Andrew Watson just spoke about. Those communities are giving us data on what works and are helping us to inform what comes next, and the delivery approaches that they have been taking are already showing signs of real progress.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 January 2025

Jenny Gilruth

Forgive me, but I believe that the solution in England and Wales has been to increase tuition fees. I do not think that that is something to be considered in Scotland as we have a policy of funding free tuition.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 January 2025

Jenny Gilruth

The £130 million is for the pupil equity fund.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 January 2025

Jenny Gilruth

Next year, the Scottish attainment challenge will be 10 years old. It was announced by Nicola Sturgeon, the previous First Minister, some time ago. It is part of our wider aspiration as a Government to eradicate child poverty, which is the point that the convener made at the start of the meeting. That funding stream will end in 2026, and the Government will then have to decide what comes next.

My view as cabinet secretary is that that funding stream has become absolutely essential to the way in which schools are now run. I am sure that, like me, committee members are regularly going in and out of schools. I regularly speak to headteachers about the importance of PEF in their schools in empowering them to take decisions and bring in additionality. It is worth my while to remind the committee that PEF supports more than 3,000 extra staff in our schools, of whom approximately 1,000 are teachers. That additionality in Scotland’s schools as a result of the funding stream has been hugely important.

My view is that it needs to remain in place. The decision about what comes next will of course be a matter in 2026 for the next Scottish Government. I hope that that will be my party, but I do not like to prejudge such things as it is a matter for the electorate. However, we need to think more broadly about resourcing and how, post pandemic, we are responding to some of the challenges in our schools.

In my earlier exchanges with the convener, I spoke about the issue of additional support needs and teacher numbers, which was recently discussed in the chamber and which I am sure that we will come on to talk about. It is hugely important that we have a good relationship with local authorities and help to ensure that they are adequately resourced to meet the additional need in our schools, particularly post pandemic. To think about this in a historical sense, some of the needs in our school have changed astronomically compared to when SAC was first introduced. For example, the changes that we have seen in our schools post pandemic mean that the level of need in relation to ASN is different, and that will require different policy solutions in the future.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority: “Higher History Review 2024”

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Jenny Gilruth

As the committee will be aware, Richard Harry, the executive director of qualifications and assessment in the Welsh exam board, carried out an independent peer review of the report. Fiona Robertson can speak about the detail of the methodology that was applied, because the methodology for the independent peer review was decided by the SQA, not by the Scottish Government.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority: “Higher History Review 2024”

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Jenny Gilruth

It is therefore quite unique.

I take the member’s point on board, but the issue that I have as cabinet secretary is that the report that I have been presented with does not present a substantive evidence base for me to issue a directive. I think that that is the point that the member is making. If that evidence base exists, I will consider it. However, the report that I have been presented with, which is a rigorous report—I am sure that all committee members have read it in detail—looks very thoroughly at the question paper, at the marking guidelines and at how they were applied. I do not have—

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority: “Higher History Review 2024”

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Jenny Gilruth

Of course. On page 10 of the report, it talks through the qualification changes in recent years. It also makes a point about the qualification requirements for history, in particular, not having been consistent since 2018. There have been changes to the qualifications largely as a result—

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority: “Higher History Review 2024”

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Jenny Gilruth

I very much recognise the strength of feeling in relation to the matter. In my experience, it is quite unusual that the qualifications body would instruct a review of such a nature. I am not sure whether that has happened previously in other subject areas.