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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 April 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 January 2025

Jenny Gilruth

I am pleased with the settlement that I have received for the education and skills portfolio.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 January 2025

Jenny Gilruth

Forgive me, Mr Rennie, but are you talking about the gap in terms of pay?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 January 2025

Jenny Gilruth

The budget provides an additional £10 million to complement the capital amount of £25 million in 2025-26 for the commitment that the member spoke of. As I understand it, that funding is coming to an end and that is the last tranche of it—it has been tapered off. It relates to the 2020-21 PFG commitment to invest £60 million to renew play parks across the country. Mr Rennick or Mr Watson might want to say more on that, but my understanding is that that funding has been tapered off in line with our approach to it, which is why it has seen a reduction this financial year.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 January 2025

Jenny Gilruth

I understand that it also relates to the autumn budget revision comparisons, which, as the committee will know, have somewhat skewed some of the numbers in the education data that you are seeing.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 January 2025

Jenny Gilruth

I am happy to do so, as I do not have an answer for the member today.

I do not know whether Andrew Watson wants to respond to that. I see that he is shaking his head. I will seek clarity from officials on that point, because I recognise the member’s interest in the issue and it is important that we give the committee clarity on that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 January 2025

Jenny Gilruth

I am sorry, but is your suggestion that we introduce tuition fees in Scotland?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 January 2025

Jenny Gilruth

Okay. I wanted to clarify that because some of your colleagues have in the past suggested doing so. That is not a position that my party would support.

We will look to work with the UK Government on the issue. I hope that Ms Duncan-Glancy will work with her UK Government colleagues to give us that certainty. I do not know why we have not yet had that certainty, but it is creating real problems for our university and college sectors in Scotland. Mr Dey and I discussed some of those concerns with UK ministers when we met them just before Christmas. We have looked to address that with the broader funding allocation for HE, which has increased by 3.5 per cent. We will perhaps go on to talk about university funding, but that increase was an ask from the sector.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 January 2025

Jenny Gilruth

You have made a number of suggestions, Ms Duncan-Glancy; I do not agree with all of them.

I am sure that you are au fait with the data on achievement of curriculum for excellence levels—ACEL—which we published in December. It showed a record narrowing of the attainment gap, particularly among our primary 7 pupils, which is to be welcomed. We are starting to see real progress.

Of course, if you look at some of the—

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 January 2025

Jenny Gilruth

I can give you an answer on that. The reason why that is happening is an ask from COSLA. Our previous approach targeted funding at those local authorities with the greatest areas of deprivation. COSLA asked us to treat all local authorities equally, which is why we have had to taper the funding over a number of years. That is why the reductions that you are speaking about are occurring. We are tapering the funding as we spread it across Scotland’s councils, as opposed to targeting those areas that are most in need. That was an ask from local authorities. The decision pre-dates my time, but it has been happening over a number of years, so it is not a new thing. I think that this will be the last year in which that tapering happens.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 January 2025

Jenny Gilruth

I will just go back briefly to the member’s point about the 2 per cent real-terms cut, because that requires to be challenged. I am more than happy to write to the committee on it, but my understanding is that that is not what is happening in relation to that budget line.