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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 4 April 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Procurement Bill

Meeting date: 5 October 2022

Ivan McKee

At the moment, the meetings are at official level. The discussions are on-going, and officials can give you some dates if you require that. There has not been engagement at ministerial level. Of course, the UK Government has just changed all its ministers and we are establishing contact with them as we speak. I do not have any specifics on that.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Trade (Australia and New Zealand) Bill

Meeting date: 5 October 2022

Ivan McKee

We are concerned about procurement, because, as I have said, the power gives UK Government ministers scope to make changes to decisions taken by the Scottish Government and in Scottish Parliament legislation on procurement.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 5 October 2022

Ivan McKee

Officials can comment on the discussion, but my understanding is that Audit Scotland will take this on as part of its role because the SFT is an NDPB. On additional resource, that will be part of the overall discussion with it on what resource it needs to do its overall job. As I said, it is quite likely that it will choose to use a commercial audit firm in that regard, which will be far less resource intensive for it. However, I do not know what discussions we have had in that regard.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

UK Infrastructure Bank Bill

Meeting date: 5 October 2022

Ivan McKee

A memorandum of understanding to provide alignment between the Scottish National Investment Bank and the UK Infrastructure Bank would be helpful to ensure that that alignment is in place. There have been official-to-official discussions on the matter. I understand that those are progressing in a positive direction and that there is an understanding or a recognition on the UK side that that would be a helpful move. We remain hopeful that that will reach a positive conclusion. As I said, however, we are still in discussion on the detail.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Procurement Bill

Meeting date: 5 October 2022

Ivan McKee

It is sometimes hard to tell the difference. The UK Government has many people working in it and a lot of things will come forward that perhaps could be written for different reasons without fully appreciating the implications. That is sometimes the situation and sometimes it is not. I hope that officials will work their way through that and be able to address it. If not, as I said, minister-to-minister engagement would allow us the opportunity to be more direct about the issues that we have with this and how they could be resolved. At that point it will perhaps be clearer as to what the intentions are.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Procurement Bill

Meeting date: 5 October 2022

Ivan McKee

My understanding is that that is the situation now. In devolved areas, we can legislate for that and require procurement to follow certain processes, but for reserved or cross-border bodies that are outside the scope of devolved procurement legislation now, that will continue. We have that difference at the moment and nothing will change in that regard anyway.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Procurement Bill

Meeting date: 5 October 2022

Ivan McKee

That is a good question. I know that Scottish procurement is about £14 billion. That includes local authorities, the national health service, other public bodies, the Scottish Government and so on. I do not have a figure for UK Government procurement in Scotland. It depends how you look at that—whether it is UK bodies that are operating in Scotland and placing their purchase orders from an entity in Scotland or UK Government bodies as a whole across the UK that may be buying from Scotland suppliers. There are a number of different ways to look at that, but I do not have that information to hand.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Procurement Bill

Meeting date: 5 October 2022

Ivan McKee

In the way in which it is drafted it gives powers to UK Government ministers to change things that are devolved.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Procurement Bill

Meeting date: 5 October 2022

Ivan McKee

The issue that Alasdair Hamilton has commented on is about updating. If a new treaty was signed with someone else, it would add that to the list of treaties that would need to be taken into account when you take forward procurement legislation. It covers that.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Trade (Australia and New Zealand) Bill

Meeting date: 5 October 2022

Ivan McKee

Yes. This has come before us for a decision on legislative consent and, as it stands, we cannot agree to it. If the power is superseded by something else in the future, that is as may be, but that does not mean that we going to give consent to something just because it might not be around for very long.