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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 6 April 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scotland’s Supply Chain

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Ivan McKee

I ask Graeme Cook to pick up on the details of the data.

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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scotland’s Supply Chain

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Ivan McKee

I will let Graeme Cook comment on that specific question in a moment, but you are right to say that international work is happening at European Union level and elsewhere on carbon mechanisms. There will always be a challenge as to how far you can go with that before you hit other restrictions that we have talked about, such as WTO procurement rules, but we are keen to move things forward, where we have the scope to do so.

Graeme, do you want to give some more detail on that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scotland’s Supply Chain

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Ivan McKee

Actually, I have had conversations with Scotland’s cement industry about what can be done.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scotland’s Supply Chain

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Ivan McKee

Green cement is obviously a focus for the sector. It presents a huge investment and technical challenge, but we have had conversations with the sector on how we move forward with it.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scotland’s Supply Chain

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Ivan McKee

We are conscious of the need to ensure that there is clarity on funding streams from Government and from agencies, that we align those and that we minimise any potential for confusion or clutter within that.

There is an action in the national strategy to look at business support and to understand where funds do similar jobs. That is to ensure that we have the right number of funds to deliver what we need and that we do not make the landscape any more cluttered than it needs to be.

However, it is important to recognise that different businesses are looking for different types of support for different challenges. We have focused on different challenges and opportunities in different sectors. To some extent, there will be a number of support mechanisms, but we are absolutely seized of the need to make that as simple as possible. We are doing that from a business perspective, so that businesses can navigate things more easily, and we are doing it from a public sector perspective, to make sure that things are as efficient as possible on delivery.

Dermot Rhatigan and others are working on a specific programme to streamline the funding streams, and I am happy to talk more about that if you would like me to go into more detail.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scotland’s Supply Chain

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Ivan McKee

It very much is, and Alpha Solway did great work during and after the pandemic. We engaged very closely with it to understand the situation of the business. The reality is not that we are buying PPE from somewhere else in Scotland; we are just not buying any PPE. Everybody understands that. We are all sat here not wearing masks, but that would not have been the case six months or a year ago. The demand for PPE is just not there. Obviously, we are not going to use public money to buy a product that has a lifespan, put it on shelves and wait for it to expire when we do not need to do that. Demand is the issue.

The strategic long-term intent is clear, and a big part of the investment that Alpha Solway has made with Scottish public sector support has been in its melt-blowing facility, which allows it to vertically integrate back up the supply chain. That means that its supply chain is more resilient, that it does not need to rely on others for material supply and that the facility, with that significant investment, will be there for the future, so as and when PPE requirements increase again, conversations will take place and orders will start to flow again.

I am very clear that, if any parts of the public sector outside of our scope continue to purchase PPE from outside the Scottish supply chain, I would be interested in having a conversation with them. I have brought that to the attention of the rest of the Scottish public sector in writing, so that we can understand whether that is happening, but we have seen no evidence of that.

Graeme Cook, do you want to comment on any other procurement aspects?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scotland’s Supply Chain

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Ivan McKee

Indeed.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scotland’s Supply Chain

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Ivan McKee

Yes. The total number of economically inactive people is 21.6 per cent, which is 750,000 people or thereabouts.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scotland’s Supply Chain

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Ivan McKee

There are still challenges, and the biggest reason why there are challenges is the immigration policy. Without doubt, that is the single biggest issue in this area—everybody will tell you that; businesses and everyone else.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scotland’s Supply Chain

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Ivan McKee

Finding UK Government ministers to engage with has been a challenge over the past few weeks, as you can appreciate. Much of that communication has not been responded to and, when it has been, our view has been that the UK Government is not doing what it needs to do to address the specifics of those issues. As I said, we continue to take every opportunity to press it on that. Unfortunately, its responses have been less than helpful and, if anything, they have shown that the UK Government is going in the wrong direction, as is reflected in what UK Government ministers have said in recent days and weeks.