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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 April 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Ivan McKee

Okay. You need to be pretty hot on the process and the numbers to make sure that that is all on the straight and narrow—

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Ivan McKee

The implication is that boards are not only getting a 1.7 per cent increase in real terms but they are also getting a 3 per cent increase through those recurring savings, which is in excess of health inflation, in effect.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Ivan McKee

Okay. So you have visibility on that. I would be interested in seeing that.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Ivan McKee

To what extent are health boards co-operating with one another to identify shared services and functions that they can combine, such as back-office functions, to reduce costs?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Ivan McKee

I do not really understand that. You are giving health boards additional money in cash terms and in real terms every year, so when you talk about a 3 per cent saving, how does that manifest itself in the numbers? It is an increase, not a saving.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Ivan McKee

Good.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Ivan McKee

Okay. Thanks very much.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Ivan McKee

How do you measure that? How do you know that they are making that saving if you are just giving them more money?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Ivan McKee

I want to unpick this. If you look at the budget and go down to level 4, which is the lowest that we go, you will see the health boards’ individual lines. I am interested in understanding a wee bit below that, specifically the issues that are raised from time to time in relation to whether the health service is overmanaged and how much of the money gets spent on bureaucracy, administration, management and so on versus how much is spent on the clinical side and medicines. Do you have clear visibility on that by health board? Are those numbers available for analysis?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Ivan McKee

—because it is very easy to lose the numbers there.