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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 April 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Ivan McKee

It was £600 million on that list, was it not?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Ivan McKee

It relates to reduced workload and delivery costs for the winter fuel payment. Social Security Scotland had been planning to expand in order to be able to deliver that benefit, but that will not now be happening.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Ivan McKee

It should not puzzle the committee because, as I said, on a weekly basis, we assess the pressures on the budget and the expected income from consequentials. Within that process, we make an assessment of where we are, we look at the gaps, and we take a view. At that point, we rightly took the view that the pressures were such that, rather than waiting any longer, it was necessary to make adjustments to the budget and make hard decisions on some spending.

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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Ivan McKee

As I said, we would be operating within a range.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Ivan McKee

Exactly, that is absolutely right. That is the point; we want to be able to reverse that expenditure—our intentions remain in place. However, pressures had to be dealt with. Which spends should we not have followed through? Should we not have increased health spend or followed through on those pay deals? What should we not have done? Those are important questions.

As I have said, there was a lack of clarity on the scope and scale of the consequentials that were coming from the UK Government, and it was necessary to use that money over that short period of time to be able to manage through that process, given our lack of borrowing powers. The UK Government and other Governments do not have that problem, because their borrowing powers do not have those tight constraints on them. A normal, independent country—dare I say it—that had the fiscal freedom to deal with that situation would have used borrowing powers to get itself over that hump, if you want to call it that. The fact that we do not have those powers means that ScotWind money has been used as a short-term buffer.

The strategic intention as to how to use that money is absolutely clear, and we are working to get back to that position.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Ivan McKee

I think that we answered the points that Michelle Thomson made. The transfer from net zero was largely to do with the fact that Scottish Water sits within the transport budget and a technical adjustment was made to the way in which its loans are treated. It was absolutely not the case that we decided to make a big cut in net zero because it was no longer a priority.

With regard to your question about transparency, we are striving to become more transparent. We have made a commitment to do that, and I think that the fact that we are becoming more transparent is evidenced by the way in which we have treated this process.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Ivan McKee

I am very happy to do that. There are many moving parts in this scenario. Many budget lines and different portfolios within them have different priorities and perspectives on how they want to spend the money, and there is an overarching perspective on how we balance the budget, which lots of factors can impact at any given point.

We strive to be as transparent as possible and to explain why there are changes in specific budget lines in specific situations. However, considering only the top level, such as in the examples that we have looked at this morning, can perhaps be slightly misleading in relation to the reality of why specific budget lines have been increased or decreased. Quite often, it is about technical or demand-led issues, or it can be things that are—

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Ivan McKee

The nature of the numbers makes the pressure more challenging because of how the consequentials that flow through are worked out. Clearly, the money that flows through is a function of the decisions that are taken on total spend and tax by the UK Government. However, if you look at the public sector pay requirements for a given percentage increase in the rest of the UK, the proportionate increase in Scotland would be higher.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Ivan McKee

We make different decisions in Scotland about how we spend money, whether it is on tuition fees, prescription charges, the Scottish child payment, higher pay for nurses and teachers or a range of other decisions that we make based on what our priorities are and how we want to spend that money.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Ivan McKee

Yes, the calculation was done, and that is where the figure ended up. Clearly, there are a lot of variables in there from across all the different councils.