The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.
The Official Report search offers lots of different ways to find the information you’re looking for. The search is used as a professional tool by researchers and third-party organisations. It is also used by members of the public who may have less parliamentary awareness. This means it needs to provide the ability to run complex searches, and the ability to browse reports or perform a simple keyword search.
The web version of the Official Report has three different views:
Depending on the kind of search you want to do, one of these views will be the best option. The default view is to show the report for each meeting of Parliament or a committee. For a simple keyword search, the results will be shown by item of business.
When you choose to search by a particular MSP, the results returned will show each spoken contribution in Parliament or a committee, ordered by date with the most recent contributions first. This will usually return a lot of results, but you can refine your search by keyword, date and/or by meeting (committee or Chamber business).
We’ve chosen to display the entirety of each MSP’s contribution in the search results. This is intended to reduce the number of times that users need to click into an actual report to get the information that they’re looking for, but in some cases it can lead to very short contributions (“Yes.”) or very long ones (Ministerial statements, for example.) We’ll keep this under review and get feedback from users on whether this approach best meets their needs.
There are two types of keyword search:
If you select an MSP’s name from the dropdown menu, and add a phrase in quotation marks to the keyword field, then the search will return only examples of when the MSP said those exact words. You can further refine this search by adding a date range or selecting a particular committee or Meeting of the Parliament.
It’s also possible to run basic Boolean searches. For example:
There are two ways of searching by date.
You can either use the Start date and End date options to run a search across a particular date range. For example, you may know that a particular subject was discussed at some point in the last few weeks and choose a date range to reflect that.
Alternatively, you can use one of the pre-defined date ranges under “Select a time period”. These are:
If you search by an individual session, the list of MSPs and committees will automatically update to show only the MSPs and committees which were current during that session. For example, if you select Session 1 you will be show a list of MSPs and committees from Session 1.
If you add a custom date range which crosses more than one session of Parliament, the lists of MSPs and committees will update to show the information that was current at that time.
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Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 7 November 2023
Daniel Johnson
I am not used to all this lavish praise, convener.
I want to follow up on a couple of points that were discussed, particularly around transparency. I am always struck by the fact that, essentially, the discussion and debate around budget time is always at level 3 and level 4, yet the actual budget bill is, essentially, at level 1, and, critically, when you look at the outturn, you see that it is, by and large, specified at level 1.
I want to ask about transparency. I fully take on board your point that overprovision of information can be a problem, and I do not want to cause officials panic about lots more work, but is there a case to explore on whether outturn could be specified in a greater level of detail? I ask that because, ultimately, my basic point of principle is that, when you are setting a budget, you need to look at how you performed against last year’s budget, and the importance and the level of scrutiny is at level 3 and level 4. Do you think that there is a case to be made for looking at the degree to which we can report back at that level on outturn?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 7 November 2023
Daniel Johnson
Your answer almost demonstrates my point. At the moment, we do not know how this will all fit together. We do not know whether the co-design might actually come forward with things that would require different powers and abilities. The point of scrutiny is to look at whether the correct powers, procedures and fiscal measures are in place in order to support the policy intent and the outcomes of that legislation. The point is that you can look at it as a discrete package and not make it up as you go along.
I fundamentally fail to understand why the co-design is not done first, so that local authorities can set out what powers and financial considerations they need so that you can ensure that the legislation is in place to make sure that it works. Why not just do that co-design first, up front, and front-load it prior to introducing legislation? I just do not understand.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 7 November 2023
Daniel Johnson
I suggest that it is up to the Government to bring forward legislation that works, not legislation that does not. I also direct the minister to the Official Report of this meeting, where she will see that I clearly said that co-design could arrive at packages of measures that could be legislated for together. She might want to do that.
Finally, is this not a bit of a “Shakespeare in Love” approach to government? In the film, Geoffrey Rush’s character was frequently asked how on earth he was going to pull it off and deliver the play, and he said, “I don’t know. It’s a mystery.” Is that not the case with this, where we have a big plan, but we do not really know how it will be delivered?
11:00Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 7 November 2023
Daniel Johnson
We cannot amend. You understand that fundamental principle: we cannot amend and it is a single-stage process.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 7 November 2023
Daniel Johnson
I quite agree that you do not want individual bits of legislation for individual items or processes. I also totally understand the need for co-design: you have to get the detail right. What I struggle to understand, however, is why that co-design cannot happen prior to legislation being introduced. By all means, why not do that co-design and bring forward legislation in stages to deal with things and package them up together—for example, following consultation and co-design, deal with single-use items and the coffee cup measures in conjunction with measures for plastic carrier bags? Is there not a risk, given the complexities and given that we are seeking to recoup the full costs of the recycling and waste that is incurred? That is inherently complicated. If you take this legislation forward in a piecemeal way without a degree of interrogation and the three-stage parliamentary process, is there not a danger that we will get that wrong? Can you clarify why we cannot do the co-design first, prior to legislation? Do you not accept that, if detail is important, it is better to have more scrutiny rather than less?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 7 November 2023
Daniel Johnson
No, I am not.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 7 November 2023
Daniel Johnson
I have been here before. [Laughter.]
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 7 November 2023
Daniel Johnson
I am slightly nervous, given the billing that I got at the beginning, when you described me as a “stalwart”, convener. I feel that I have something to live up to.
May I clarify a couple of points based on answers that have already been given this morning? Is it correct to say, first, that we do not know what the full costs of the bill will be, because provisions are subject to co-design, and, secondly, that we do not have a detailed co-design process or timetable in place? Are both correct?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 7 November 2023
Daniel Johnson
I mean across the full scope of the bill. We do not know the full costs that will derive from the bill, because provisions are subject to co-design.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 7 November 2023
Daniel Johnson
On the narrow question, we do not, because we cannot, yet know the full cost.