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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 29 November 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Daniel Johnson

Terrific. I would like to bring in Willie Coffey.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Daniel Johnson

We move now to agenda item 3, which is hearing evidence on cross-border public procurement regulations. I invite the minister to make a short opening statement.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Daniel Johnson

Under agenda item 5 we will continue our evidence sessions on artificial intelligence. We are pleased to have two panels this morning, the first of which consists of Dex Hunter-Torricke, strategic communications adviser and former head of communications at SpaceX and current head of executive communications at Facebook, and Kayla-Megan Burns, tech founder and board member at the Royal Scottish National Orchestra, both of whom are attending online.

I would like to begin by asking you both whether you think we are getting it right with regard to how we understand artificial intelligence and the skills that we seek to instil in young people and the wider population. Much of the discussion is about losing jobs and workers being displaced, but I slightly shudder when my daughters come home from school telling me that they are being told that they must not use any AI whatsoever.

My sense is that we should be thinking about what we can use AI for. What are the right questions and the right ways to use it? How we can use AI to maximise our skills and knowledge and the expertise of the wider workforce? What should we be doing to give people the right skills to maximise the use of AI? Dex Hunter-Torricke, I noticed you nodding. Can I bring you in on that question?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Daniel Johnson

Good. We will be interested in exploring the number of strands that you have laid out.

Kayla-Megan Burns, I am mindful that my deputy convener, Michelle Thomson, would like to talk more in depth about the arts, but can I ask you a similar question on skills? From an artistic point of view, what sorts of skills should we be thinking about? Are there as many possibilities as there are risks when you are considering the arts more generally?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Daniel Johnson

I have a question for the minister. For clarity, does the instrument mean that Iraqi firms need to be given equal consideration when bidding for public work, and vice versa for Scottish firms in Iraq? In practical terms, looking at the balance of trade and the industrial and economic base of both countries, are there likely to be Iraqi firms that bid? Has there been any analysis of that?

Likewise, what might the opportunities be for Scottish firms to bid for public contracts in Iraq?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Daniel Johnson

As members have no questions, we will move on to agenda item 4, which is formal consideration of the SSI. I remind members that only members and the minister may take part in this section. I invite the minister to speak to and move motion S6M-19428.

Motion moved,

That the Economy and Fair Work Committee recommends that the Cross-Border Public Procurement (Miscellaneous Amendment) (Scotland) Regulations 2025 [draft] be approved.—[Ivan McKee]

Motion agreed to.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Daniel Johnson

Thank you. The deputy convener would like to ask a brief supplementary.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Daniel Johnson

Welcome back for our second panel of witnesses for our short inquiry into artificial intelligence. I am very pleased that we are joined by Steve Aitken, the founder of Intelligent Plant Ltd, and Leo Fakhrul, chief executive officer of XYNQ and Mamba Sounds. Unfortunately, Rich Wilson is not with us. I note on the record that he had a small accident this morning. I am sure that all members of the committee join me in wishing him a speedy recovery.

We have just over an hour, so I would appreciate concise questions and, if possible—although this is an expansive topic—concise responses. I will hand over straight away to my deputy convener, Michelle Thomson.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Daniel Johnson

A short report will be prepared and published, and I invite the committee to delegate report clearance to me as convener. Is that acceptable to the committee?

Members indicated agreement.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Daniel Johnson

I suspend the committee briefly in order to change witnesses.

09:12 Meeting suspended.  

09:14 On resuming—