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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 13 April 2025
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Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Framework Legislation and Henry VIII Powers

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Daniel Johnson

That is one of my favourite lines, by the way. I use it all the time—if you do not understand it, it is probably wrong.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Framework Legislation and Henry VIII Powers

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Daniel Johnson

It would be interesting to hear from Professor Whitaker. We will not be able to come up with a hard and fast test that would allow us to feed legislation into a computer to provide a green light for legislation that is fine or a red light for framework legislation, but is there at least a set of principles, as Dr Tickell has pointed out, that we could use to make that judgment?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Framework Legislation and Henry VIII Powers

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Daniel Johnson

Following on from some of the things that have just been said, I think that Dr Tickell, in particular, made the interesting point that the justification that is often given for this approach is the pace of change and, critically, the length of time that it takes to get legislation through the Parliament. As a parliamentarian, certainly in the Scottish Parliament, I would gently question that premise. That might be the case if we were dealing with stage 3s every day, or even every week, but ultimately, without using emergency procedures, a short bill can be passed in three or four months. It is not unheard of for a bill to be introduced in September and passed by Christmas time, depending on the length of it. Would witnesses agree with that insight?

I have no experience at Westminster, I am also interested to hear from panel members about whether the world is very different there. The ability have electronic voting here makes it easier to vote, for example. The more fundamental point is: should we be asking the Government to reconceive how it thinks about legislation? Should it be making shorter bills that are more focused? It might find that those are easier to get through. Essentially, the Government is seeking to avoid Parliament, but without necessarily having justification for doing so. Do you agree with those insights?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Framework Legislation and Henry VIII Powers

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Daniel Johnson

The point that Dr Fox raised about the loss of the green paper to white paper procedure is important. Is the excuse that there is not the time valid in Westminster, or is that rationale just convenient for the party of government? Dr Govan, you are nodding.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Framework Legislation and Henry VIII Powers

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Daniel Johnson

Dr Grez Hidalgo, was your proposal roughly along the same lines? Are there any other elements that you want to highlight?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Framework Legislation and Henry VIII Powers

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Daniel Johnson

That is also true of primary legislation. That is the argument that we constantly get from the Government when we lodge amendments to legislation. It says, “You don’t realise what you have done.” However, I take the broader point.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Framework Legislation and Henry VIII Powers

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Daniel Johnson

That is noted.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

City Region and Regional Growth Deals

Meeting date: 11 December 2024

Daniel Johnson

That is a useful set of insights. I get a sense of slight frustration, which is very helpful.

I want to ask a brief additional question, although it might lead to an expansive answer. Although all the growth deals can identify many good projects, one concern is about how those projects align, both within growth deals and, more particularly, between growth deals. Is there a danger that although we have policies that might work for a particular area, they might not all join up? Is the whole greater than the sum of the parts? Are there wider strategies at play? Do your deals play nicely with neighbouring deals, or should that be looked at as we move forward?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

City Region and Regional Growth Deals

Meeting date: 11 December 2024

Daniel Johnson

That is from the external perspective, but do you think that that works? That is about things stopping you doing things. Do you have projects in mind that are mutually reinforcing?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

City Region and Regional Growth Deals

Meeting date: 11 December 2024

Daniel Johnson

You can judge whether this is an unfair question. Did the previous growth deals make any observations about things to avoid or things that they wished they had known when they were embarking on their deals?